Hello everyone,
After looking at several Steinel lights (L 835 LED iHF, where the sensor apparently still reacts to cats despite advertising claims, or the Spot One), we realized that due to different detection ranges (radial, tangential) and also beam angles (160° or 90°), it is not easy to reliably cover all paths an intruder might take on their property towards the house.
Very few lights offer protection against crawling underneath, where the light would turn on if the intruder approaches the house outside of the sensor’s detection area.
In this forum, it is often pointed out that good automatic lighting (with sensors) provides reliable burglary protection because burglars tend to prefer working in the dark.
How have you planned your setup to cover every angle? What kinds of sensors do you use? Are there other companies besides STEINEL that offer affordable and good-quality outdoor lights with sensors?
Thank you for your help.
After looking at several Steinel lights (L 835 LED iHF, where the sensor apparently still reacts to cats despite advertising claims, or the Spot One), we realized that due to different detection ranges (radial, tangential) and also beam angles (160° or 90°), it is not easy to reliably cover all paths an intruder might take on their property towards the house.
Very few lights offer protection against crawling underneath, where the light would turn on if the intruder approaches the house outside of the sensor’s detection area.
In this forum, it is often pointed out that good automatic lighting (with sensors) provides reliable burglary protection because burglars tend to prefer working in the dark.
How have you planned your setup to cover every angle? What kinds of sensors do you use? Are there other companies besides STEINEL that offer affordable and good-quality outdoor lights with sensors?
Thank you for your help.
ypg schrieb:
A thief doesn’t come a second time. Maybe by chance, three years later... I know you have more background knowledge on this than I do. But from my experience with break-ins here over the years, it was always the same people who cleared out the houses over the course of weeks, and they did come back—again and again.
This came to light when they were caught by chance and stolen goods from several neighbors, who had been targeted weeks apart, were found.
What I want to say is there isn’t a typical thief, and some do come back.
Mycraft schrieb:
I know you have more background knowledge than I do. But based on my experience with burglaries here over the years, it was always the same people who came back repeatedly, emptying houses over several weeks. They kept coming back, again and again. Then they were really foolish... because once the old family gold jewelry was taken, there was nothing left to steal.
There was more than one house on the street, and you can’t clear out all of them in just one day. It should be obvious that they don’t keep going back to the same houses repeatedly, right?
So they just go through the same streets day after day. I think it’s relatively easy to figure out where someone lives and where they are on vacation.
Possibly following the method you described: some houses are emptied out at the front, then others are gathered up at the back. Today it might be numbers 10, 12, and 15, and tomorrow 9, 25, and 18. You can notice that at number 13, the same shoes and tools are always left out on the terrace.
So why not try number 13 on the third day?
So they just go through the same streets day after day. I think it’s relatively easy to figure out where someone lives and where they are on vacation.
Possibly following the method you described: some houses are emptied out at the front, then others are gathered up at the back. Today it might be numbers 10, 12, and 15, and tomorrow 9, 25, and 18. You can notice that at number 13, the same shoes and tools are always left out on the terrace.
So why not try number 13 on the third day?
Mycraft schrieb:
Possibly exactly according to the principle you described. Items are let out in the front and picked up again at the back. Only today numbers 10, 12, and 15 are involved, and tomorrow it will be 9, 25, and 18. Yes, that’s roughly how it is.
Mycraft schrieb:
It can be observed that number 13 always has the same shoes and tools lying on the terrace. I think that is overrated. (It’s similar to how many people believe that all neighbors always look through the same window and are watching you.)
But whatever. Everyone should do what they think is best.
Some people build a kind of fortress at home, while leaving their Wi-Fi open, spreading their bank details, or leaving their bag in the car. Passwords are interesting too – I don’t know anyone who uses a different one everywhere and/or changes them every 3 months. I don’t do that either. And there is much more to gain from data than from the house.
Sure, nowadays everything is no longer just double-edged... with all the possibilities, the sword has many edges these days... However, when it comes to your own home, fear often comes into play (after a break-in) along with the feeling of no longer being safe at home.
In the past, everything was simpler, no matter who says otherwise...
In the past, everything was simpler, no matter who says otherwise...