Hello everyone,
Since we are currently comparing two construction companies, I would like to highlight the differences and determine value approaches:
- 7-chamber profile vs. 5-chamber profile → cost differences? Quality differences?
- Burglar resistance RC2 – necessary or not?
Since we are currently comparing two construction companies, I would like to highlight the differences and determine value approaches:
- 7-chamber profile vs. 5-chamber profile → cost differences? Quality differences?
- Burglar resistance RC2 – necessary or not?
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nordanney28 Sep 2020 11:12exto1791 schrieb:
- 7-chamber profile vs. 5-chamber profile --> cost differences? Quality differences? Wrong question. A high-quality 5-chamber profile can be better and more expensive than a low-quality 7-chamber profile.
exto1791 schrieb:
- Burglar resistance class RC2 – necessary or not? A matter of opinion. I find it unnecessary. The following responses will likely be mixed.
Ultimately, the necessity is something you decide for yourself. If you feel unsafe without additional burglar protection, then it is necessary—whether it’s on the 7th floor of an inexpensive condominium or a luxury villa. Another aspect to consider is the cost, which should not be underestimated. Burglar protection refers not only to windows including glass but to the overall situation (outdoor lighting, motion detectors, alarm system, etc.).
ypg schrieb:
... I think completely different factors come into play when making a comparison.
What you’re asking about can be upgraded.
In my opinion, the solid execution and the good gut feeling that you’ve found the right partner are more important. Definitely. To create a cost comparison, in my opinion, it is necessary to know how high-quality the windows are—specifically: what does an upgrade cost? That’s why I’m asking whether, for example, a 7-chamber profile already represents a significant added value.
Of course, we will inquire about all of this in detail again, but I am very critical of the general contractors (GCs), regardless of whether the GC leaves a trustworthy impression or not... after all, they are also salespeople and clearly consider the costs.
If one GC makes a good impression and is overall cheaper, it does not mean that the other GC might not also be an option. It could be that this GC is just as trustworthy to me but simply uses higher quality in this area, which would then require a clear price comparison!
I am very satisfied with both GCs and currently face the difficult choice, which is why I’m making such comparisons...
The number of chambers in a window profile is not a design goal but rather a byproduct of making the profile torsion-resistant. Therefore, it is nonsensical to "argue" based on the resulting number of chambers, and in my opinion, morally misleading to speculate that a layperson would transfer their (also incorrect) assumption that "triple glazing is 'better' than double glazing" to the number of profile chambers. A window profile can, in a way, be compared to a floor plan, where load-bearing walls are often thicker than non-load-bearing ones, visible even to a layperson, while others of the same thickness may suffice due to shorter spans in between. Some window profiles are optimized to be "slim" with narrow visible surfaces, others are tailored for a "sharp" angular look, or conversely, for "soft" rounded edges. Different construction philosophies and/or visual design goals are the reasons for the (somewhat "accidental") variation in the number of profile chambers, but not price and/or quality!
The "security level" of windows regarding burglary protection is a complex field comprising various measures that are not only parametric. Notably, for example, the now widely used "mushroom-head locks" are an easily retrofittable detail. Taller and wider windows are naturally easier to pry open, especially from a half-open position (tilt). Increased protection mainly makes sense where windows are easily accessible (ground floor, but also some windows on upper floors under a canopy, bay window, or garage). Easily accessible and hard to see from outside are the intruder's favorites, and in cases of forced entry, they want to make as little noise as possible.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The "security level" of windows regarding burglary protection is a complex field comprising various measures that are not only parametric. Notably, for example, the now widely used "mushroom-head locks" are an easily retrofittable detail. Taller and wider windows are naturally easier to pry open, especially from a half-open position (tilt). Increased protection mainly makes sense where windows are easily accessible (ground floor, but also some windows on upper floors under a canopy, bay window, or garage). Easily accessible and hard to see from outside are the intruder's favorites, and in cases of forced entry, they want to make as little noise as possible.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/