Hello forum community,
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
I hope it’s okay that I’m asking a question here as a tenant, because I expect a lot of expertise on the topic...
A few months ago, we moved into a rented apartment on the first floor of an old building (late 19th century, three-story brick building). The apartments were renovated 5 years ago, and the walls were plastered with clay plaster.
Now, the tenant in the apartment below us told us that recently, severe cracks have appeared in the ceiling plaster of her apartment. She also finds our children quite loud. That may be true, as they are quite lively and sometimes run around inside the apartment. However, we make sure they don’t constantly jump off chairs or similar. Additionally, all the apartments have laminate flooring (according to the landlord, with impact sound insulation), and we can clearly hear the tenants above us when they walk around, even though they tend to be quiet.
She spoke to the landlord about this, and after they inspected the damage, it seems that the entire plaster in her ceiling will need to be replaced. Of course, this is the landlord’s responsibility, but the time required is significant, especially for a single mother with two children, as she has to empty all the rooms.
The tenant below connects this to us moving into the apartment above, saying the cracks only appeared since we moved in. Apparently, the previous tenants were quieter. I really can’t imagine that two children weighing a maximum of 20 kg (44 lbs) running around could cause the plaster below to crumble? Based on my basic understanding of construction, there are always cavities in ceilings, so vibrations shouldn’t be transmitted so directly, right? Sure, if I had two overweight 15-year-olds regularly practicing martial arts indoors, I could imagine that, but with slender kindergarten children? What kind of building is it if it can’t handle that…?
The noise issue is separate, and I understand that. We are considering putting carpets in the main rooms.
Is it conceivable that running children could have such an impact? Or how else could cracks in the clay plaster below appear within just a few months? By the way, we also have cracks, but they seem normal and don’t look like the plaster is about to come down.
Thanks in advance if anyone took the time to read this!
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
Sure, if you cover the cleaning and gardening costs, we’ll go to the playground. Did you ask them? In the end, they might do it. I’d consider it...
Basically a win-win situation.
That said, I wonder what kind of playgrounds these are? Mud pits? Would more concrete for the playgrounds be better?
Aside from that, it’s quite interesting: noisy kids in front of the neighbor’s house – no problem, they have to tolerate that. But please, no dirt inside the house caused by the same kids.
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Knallkörper9 May 2017 17:43kaho674 schrieb:
I see that quite calmly. If we continue to pollute the world like this, the cancer rate in 20 years will be so high that hardly anyone will reach old age requiring care.Well, now your imagination is running away with you. It’s probably a psychological self-protection mechanism.
Knallkörper schrieb:
It is probably a psychological self-protection measure.Same here.K
Knallkörper9 May 2017 17:49kaho674 schrieb:
Dito.Don’t worry. I’m in full control of my senses. But I guess you forgot your tinfoil hat today...
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toxicmolotof9 May 2017 18:24kaho674 schrieb:
[...] and every unborn child is the best contribution to saving the planet.Regardless of the rest of your, well, post, which is certainly open to debate, this is a pretty unfair portrayal of children. No child in the world is inherently bad or causes the world to fall into chaos. Not 100, not 1,000,000 children. What children become is shaped by the example adults set, and with your generalization, you aren’t exactly setting a good example yourself.
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Bieber08159 May 2017 19:24@okapiposter Sometimes it’s like that: you ask a simple question and suddenly there are three pages about the meaning of life. But, as often happens, the answer is already there—in post #2, first paragraph.