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We are building a city villa, 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft) according to residential space requirements, and we are currently struggling with the floor plan for the ground floor. Attached are the first two draft sketches from our builder. Both are almost identical, except that in the second version, due to a larger kitchen, the door from the hallway to the utility room is positioned further under the stairs, which eliminates the planned storage area there.
Would you completely give up the access to the utility room from the hallway?
How advantageous or disadvantageous is the rather square shape of the living/dining area?
We are building a city villa, 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft) according to residential space requirements, and we are currently struggling with the floor plan for the ground floor. Attached are the first two draft sketches from our builder. Both are almost identical, except that in the second version, due to a larger kitchen, the door from the hallway to the utility room is positioned further under the stairs, which eliminates the planned storage area there.
Would you completely give up the access to the utility room from the hallway?
How advantageous or disadvantageous is the rather square shape of the living/dining area?
First of all, great to see so much feedback. Thank you!
@Mecc: We don’t know the exact cost of the bay window yet. According to the architect, it needs to be considered individually, but I would estimate something in the range of 3-5k Euros (k€).
@Teufelchen: That may be true about the passage to the utility room from the kitchen. But our kitchen is now 20.5m² (220 sq ft) and has an enormous amount of storage. The cabinet run is 4.80m (15 ft 9 in) long with four 90cm (35 in) pull-out units below and one 120cm (47 in) plus four 90cm (35 in) wall cabinets above. The island measures 2.1x1.2m (6 ft 11 in x 3 ft 11 in) and also has plenty of base cabinets. The appliance wall in the niche (1.90m (6 ft 3 in)) is 1.80m (5 ft 11 in) high and, besides the fridge, steam oven, and regular oven, offers a lot of storage. So we definitely don’t lack cabinets.
@ypg: Exactly—that’s the point. Having to constantly walk through the living room just to get a crate of water, for example, while a coffee gathering is going on inside, is not really comfortable. And your idea of the utility room on the second floor just occurred to me as well. But we don’t have space left upstairs for a second utility room, since we have two kids’ rooms (each 15m² (161 sq ft)), a guest room (12m² (129 sq ft)), the master bedroom with a walk-in closet (about 25m² (269 sq ft)), and the bathroom (15m² (161 sq ft)).
@Mecc: We don’t know the exact cost of the bay window yet. According to the architect, it needs to be considered individually, but I would estimate something in the range of 3-5k Euros (k€).
@Teufelchen: That may be true about the passage to the utility room from the kitchen. But our kitchen is now 20.5m² (220 sq ft) and has an enormous amount of storage. The cabinet run is 4.80m (15 ft 9 in) long with four 90cm (35 in) pull-out units below and one 120cm (47 in) plus four 90cm (35 in) wall cabinets above. The island measures 2.1x1.2m (6 ft 11 in x 3 ft 11 in) and also has plenty of base cabinets. The appliance wall in the niche (1.90m (6 ft 3 in)) is 1.80m (5 ft 11 in) high and, besides the fridge, steam oven, and regular oven, offers a lot of storage. So we definitely don’t lack cabinets.
@ypg: Exactly—that’s the point. Having to constantly walk through the living room just to get a crate of water, for example, while a coffee gathering is going on inside, is not really comfortable. And your idea of the utility room on the second floor just occurred to me as well. But we don’t have space left upstairs for a second utility room, since we have two kids’ rooms (each 15m² (161 sq ft)), a guest room (12m² (129 sq ft)), the master bedroom with a walk-in closet (about 25m² (269 sq ft)), and the bathroom (15m² (161 sq ft)).
Musketier schrieb:
Maybe it’s just a personal feeling because of the large floor area, but could it be that the staircase length doesn’t quite fit?
To avoid feeling overwhelmed in room sizes like your living room, the ceiling height shouldn’t be too low. Otherwise, with 13 steps, it would more likely be a steep ladder.You are right about your comment on the ceiling height. That’s why we planned for an increased floor-to-ceiling height. How many steps are standard for a “normal” ceiling height?
And the furniture placement will be done this evening.
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nordanney23 May 2013 16:21We will have a ceiling height of at least 2.60m (rather a few centimeters more, as the floor structure is planned to be quite substantial), and we have planned a staircase with 16 steps (with 13 steps, it becomes really steep!).
aytex schrieb:
There is simply no space left upstairs for a second utility room, as we have two children's bedrooms (each 15 m² (160 ft²)), one guest room (12 m² (130 ft²)), the master bedroom with walk-in closet (approx. 25 m² (270 ft²)), and the bathroom (15 m² (160 ft²)).Oops, I’m actually seeing 4–5 m² (43–54 ft²) available for a washer, dryer, and some laundry cabinets (bedroom 12 m² (130 ft²), walk-in closet 7 m² (75 ft²)).
I will include the small room on the second floor in the plans, thanks for pointing that out.
So, yesterday I ended up working at the computer until 12:30 a.m., measuring furniture and making adjustments. The house is now more elongated, with dimensions of 12.38 x 9.00 meters (40.6 x 29.5 feet) instead of 11.40 x 9.80 meters (37.4 x 32.2 feet). This makes the living room "wider," which separates the dining area and seating area as we wanted. The staircase now borders the living room wall on the left, allowing us to keep the storage space under the stairs and the door to the utility room.
This should work, right? Is there anything else we should consider?
So, yesterday I ended up working at the computer until 12:30 a.m., measuring furniture and making adjustments. The house is now more elongated, with dimensions of 12.38 x 9.00 meters (40.6 x 29.5 feet) instead of 11.40 x 9.80 meters (37.4 x 32.2 feet). This makes the living room "wider," which separates the dining area and seating area as we wanted. The staircase now borders the living room wall on the left, allowing us to keep the storage space under the stairs and the door to the utility room.
This should work, right? Is there anything else we should consider?
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