ᐅ Your Opinion on Our Floor Plan for a Single-Family Home Without a Basement
Created on: 1 Feb 2018 03:36
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beatboxking
Hello dear forum community,
The time of quietly reading along is over, and today I would like to share my own building project and the current status of the floor plan design. We aim to sign the construction contract with the general contractor as soon as possible so that construction can start this year. However, without the blessing of the forum, I’m not quite daring to proceed – after all, many eyes are known to be helpful...
Thank you in advance for your efforts – I’m curious to see which direction the discussion will take...
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 694sqm (7,469 sq ft)
Slope: gentle north-facing slope
Floor area ratio (FAR): Max. 0.35
Site coverage ratio: Max. 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: Building envelope = blue, 16m x 16m (52ft x 52ft), the house must be placed against the red line (can be oriented lengthwise or widthwise – must be perpendicular to the building line);
Setbacks: 3m (10 ft), garage or carport may be built on the north boundary
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: gable roof, roof pitch 18°–22°
Style: modern
Orientation: south (possibly east if the advantages of a better floor plan outweigh this)
Maximum heights/restrictions: Max. 7.5m (25 ft) wall height
Additional requirements: House dimensions according to development plan max. 14m x 10m (46 ft x 33 ft), rectangular with a minimum side ratio of 5:4
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof 22°, wooden house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 3 people, 1 more child planned
Ground floor space needs: utility room, shower bathroom, office/guest room, cloakroom, large kitchen/dining/living area
Upper floor space needs: 2 children’s rooms facing south, master bedroom, bathroom, walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 3–4
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: preferred
Music/stereo wall: yes and no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport with additional storage space
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine: We want no direct line of sight from the living room into the kitchen – fireplace as a room divider; the utility room should also accommodate the washing machine and dryer.
House Design
Who designed the plan: self-designed based on an existing floor plan
What do you especially like and why?: Private access from the bedroom to the bathroom (via the walk-in closet)
What do you dislike and why?: Shower bathroom on the ground floor is not accessible from the guest room; the layout of the bathroom upstairs doesn’t quite work – the space at the sink is too small; no space for the TV;
Cost estimate: approx. 400,000€
Personal maximum budget for the house including fittings: 450,000€
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler
If you have to give up some details or features:
- Which can you live without: access to the shower bathroom on the ground floor from the guest room
- Which you cannot do without: access to the bathroom from the bedroom (via the walk-in closet)
Why has the design become what it is now?
After what felt like 200 drawn floor plans, I came across a plan from a builder that, with few changes, meets many of our requirements.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes? Good because it is basically simple and still allows the possibility of an additional room upstairs (perhaps a kind of reading/music corner for later – separated by glass, like a conservatory). Bad because in some areas it is just a compromise – but that is probably normal in home building as long as the budget is limited...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Have we made any fundamental mistakes? Would you prefer the living space to face east? Are the usable areas sufficient?
The time of quietly reading along is over, and today I would like to share my own building project and the current status of the floor plan design. We aim to sign the construction contract with the general contractor as soon as possible so that construction can start this year. However, without the blessing of the forum, I’m not quite daring to proceed – after all, many eyes are known to be helpful...
Thank you in advance for your efforts – I’m curious to see which direction the discussion will take...
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 694sqm (7,469 sq ft)
Slope: gentle north-facing slope
Floor area ratio (FAR): Max. 0.35
Site coverage ratio: Max. 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: Building envelope = blue, 16m x 16m (52ft x 52ft), the house must be placed against the red line (can be oriented lengthwise or widthwise – must be perpendicular to the building line);
Setbacks: 3m (10 ft), garage or carport may be built on the north boundary
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: gable roof, roof pitch 18°–22°
Style: modern
Orientation: south (possibly east if the advantages of a better floor plan outweigh this)
Maximum heights/restrictions: Max. 7.5m (25 ft) wall height
Additional requirements: House dimensions according to development plan max. 14m x 10m (46 ft x 33 ft), rectangular with a minimum side ratio of 5:4
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern, gable roof 22°, wooden house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages: 3 people, 1 more child planned
Ground floor space needs: utility room, shower bathroom, office/guest room, cloakroom, large kitchen/dining/living area
Upper floor space needs: 2 children’s rooms facing south, master bedroom, bathroom, walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guests per year: 3–4
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes, yes
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: preferred
Music/stereo wall: yes and no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport with additional storage space
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: later
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine: We want no direct line of sight from the living room into the kitchen – fireplace as a room divider; the utility room should also accommodate the washing machine and dryer.
House Design
Who designed the plan: self-designed based on an existing floor plan
What do you especially like and why?: Private access from the bedroom to the bathroom (via the walk-in closet)
What do you dislike and why?: Shower bathroom on the ground floor is not accessible from the guest room; the layout of the bathroom upstairs doesn’t quite work – the space at the sink is too small; no space for the TV;
Cost estimate: approx. 400,000€
Personal maximum budget for the house including fittings: 450,000€
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler
If you have to give up some details or features:
- Which can you live without: access to the shower bathroom on the ground floor from the guest room
- Which you cannot do without: access to the bathroom from the bedroom (via the walk-in closet)
Why has the design become what it is now?
After what felt like 200 drawn floor plans, I came across a plan from a builder that, with few changes, meets many of our requirements.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your eyes? Good because it is basically simple and still allows the possibility of an additional room upstairs (perhaps a kind of reading/music corner for later – separated by glass, like a conservatory). Bad because in some areas it is just a compromise – but that is probably normal in home building as long as the budget is limited...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Have we made any fundamental mistakes? Would you prefer the living space to face east? Are the usable areas sufficient?
j.bautsch schrieb:
Well, 3.20–3.40 meters (10.5–11.2 feet) is definitely acceptable for dining. We currently have 2.7 meters (8.9 feet) in our rental, which is quite tight with a 90 cm (35 inch) table, but it still works. An extra 50–70 cm (20–28 inches) would be nice. Four meters (13.1 feet) would be a luxury, of course, but if possible, that’s obviously better.You want to improve compared to a rental apartment, of course. Also, this isn’t about a 120 cm (47 inch) wide bungalow, and it’s important to note that this refers to table length, as marked!
If you allow about 2 good meters (6.6 feet) for the dining table itself, then with chairs occupied on both sides you’re at about 3.40 meters (11.2 feet). Here, you would be sitting by the fireplace, so I don’t see the 1.17 meter (46 inch) clearance in front of the island. If the table is occupied by six people as here, it would need to be moved further away from the plan’s top edge and would no longer align with the island.
If you rotate the table, someone would be sitting at the head end in the walking path, which isn’t ideal either.
But: this dimension is definitely not enough for the staircase, unless you opt for a steep staircase.
beatboxking schrieb:
The time of silently reading along is over Have you noticed that apparently one of your neighbors is already here as well? – The site plan looks very familiar to me from https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Einfamilienhaus-Entwurfsplanung-bitte-um-Feedback.26428
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beatboxking2 Feb 2018 00:44First of all, thank you for the many responses. Sometimes you just need to hear things from others so you don’t convince yourself everything is fine.
I’ll try that, but then the bed would have to be rotated. We’d end up sleeping under the window (even if we move it), which we actually don’t want. I’ll take a closer look…
Ouch, that stung…
There is a door in the guest room leading to the storage space under the stairs – but it wasn’t intended as a pantry. I admit the use is suboptimal, but it’s at least better than nothing… Maybe there will be a better solution if I follow these tips:
I’ll try to implement the guest area here. What do you think about lighting in the upstairs hallway? Generally, I’d like to have natural light there, but that would mean having to plan a skylight if necessary. However, that would be at more than 3.5m (11.5 ft) height…
True, hopefully that can be solved by moving the utility room to the west side (smaller room > shift living area to north)…
I haven’t come up with a solution for that yet…
Yes, I already noticed that.
I’ll get to work and hopefully have something new to present soon…
j.bautsch schrieb:
I would move the doors to the dressing room to the top of the plan...
I’ll try that, but then the bed would have to be rotated. We’d end up sleeping under the window (even if we move it), which we actually don’t want. I’ll take a closer look…
kaho674 schrieb:
Nice start. Still, I would scrap the plan now and start over or ask the architect right away.
Ouch, that stung…
kaho674 schrieb:
- Space under the stairs should serve as a pantry for the kitchen – wrong location,
There is a door in the guest room leading to the storage space under the stairs – but it wasn’t intended as a pantry. I admit the use is suboptimal, but it’s at least better than nothing… Maybe there will be a better solution if I follow these tips:
kaho674 schrieb:
- Guest room and utility room should swap places,
- Utility room too small if laundry also has to go there
kaho674 schrieb:
- Play corridor huge compared to the other rooms
I’ll try to implement the guest area here. What do you think about lighting in the upstairs hallway? Generally, I’d like to have natural light there, but that would mean having to plan a skylight if necessary. However, that would be at more than 3.5m (11.5 ft) height…
kaho674 schrieb:
- Visual axis from living room to kitchen isn’t really interrupted
True, hopefully that can be solved by moving the utility room to the west side (smaller room > shift living area to north)…
kaho674 schrieb:
- TV – if wanted – where would it go?
I haven’t come up with a solution for that yet…
11ant schrieb:
Did you notice that a neighbor of yours seems to be here as well?
Yes, I already noticed that.
I’ll get to work and hopefully have something new to present soon…
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beatboxking2 Feb 2018 00:46ypg schrieb:
But: this dimension is definitely not enough for the staircase, or it will be a steep staircaseHmm... I took this dimension more or less from "Treppenmeister.com" – I actually thought it would fit. What dimensions should I use for a “normally” steep quarter-turn staircase?
Thanks!
beatboxking schrieb:
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: modern, gable roof 22° (22°), wooden house The house in the pictures looks quite different though (?) – by the way, you can edit or add to your posts within 10 minutes.
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beatboxking2 Feb 2018 00:56ypg schrieb:
The entrance area is smaller than those in some terraced houses. It won’t be comfortable -> congestion when entering, congestion when welcoming guests, congestion when storing coats.I probably spent too much time trying to minimize hallway space, so I may have lost sight of the hallway’s purpose...
ypg schrieb:
However, this is still too undeveloped -> a proper plan, taking time to sit down with a written room program and your wishes (an L-shape is usually better for an open-plan room to provide visual privacy), reviewing the site plan, and roughly marking the orientation of rooms on the plot first, in my opinion leads to a better result.What specifically don’t you like about the orientation? The children’s rooms are on the south side, just like the living, dining, and kitchen area, which gets light from three sides. I actually paid attention to that, so I’m curious to hear more details...
Thank you!
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