Hello everyone!
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
Scout schrieb:
Yes. The cheapest option would be a gabion wall. You can even build it yourself. Aim for at least 200 cm (79 inches) in height—if that seems too bulky, you could also incorporate laminated safety glass (VSG) elements in between or use them on top as a finishing touch to give the wall a lighter look. Whether you choose clear or frosted glass is up to you.I have also looked at gabions, but personally, I find them quite unattractive; however, you can let them become overgrown. For a length of almost 20 m (66 feet), the price can quickly add up to 3000–4000 euros if you build them yourself, or have I just not found the right offer yet?
guckuck2 schrieb:
Everything costs four figures for 20m (65 feet).That’s definitely true. The current ideas are:
- Wooden plank fence as planned for just under 1000 plus installation
- Brick wall made of clinker bricks, but the bricks alone will cost at least 1000-1500 for the area, plus mortar, concrete for the foundation, and some fittings. So more like around 2k. That would obviously be the most attractive option visually.
Gabions are probably too expensive for me, especially since I don’t really like them.
I’m also a bit hesitant about the brick wall. I’ve never done any masonry before and I’m not sure if I can get it done the way I imagine. And how long it will take me 😀
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pagoni20201 Jun 2021 09:59Your main concern is clearly about sound insulation; therefore, I would make sure to get a thorough explanation of whether and how my planned measures will actually reduce the problem to my satisfaction.
Otherwise, you might end up spending a significant amount of money on walls and/or fences and possibly save in the wrong places, leaving the issue unresolved.
In this context, I would strongly recommend adhering to the well-known principle "form follows function" and finding someone competent on site who can provide suitable advice.
Otherwise, you might end up spending a significant amount of money on walls and/or fences and possibly save in the wrong places, leaving the issue unresolved.
In this context, I would strongly recommend adhering to the well-known principle "form follows function" and finding someone competent on site who can provide suitable advice.
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Osnabruecker1 Jun 2021 10:02kati1337 schrieb:
I've never done any masonry work before.Then bricklaying is like diving into cold water, even if it’s just a garden wall and not meant to win any beauty contests...
A proper foundation is needed underneath, bricks plus mortar, a capstone on top, and finally jointing. And many experienced masons themselves struggle with jointing and often subcontract this part.
So, don't favor bricklaying too much if your budget is tight...
pagoni2020 schrieb:
Your main concern is sound; therefore, I would have someone explain to me in detail whether and how my planned measures will actually reduce this problem so that I am satisfied afterward. Otherwise, you might spend a lot of money on walls and/or fences and perhaps save in the wrong area, leaving your problem unresolved. Especially here, I would strongly recommend following the well-known principle "form follows function" and finding someone competent who can advise me on-site. I understand what you mean, but I believe the solution that would perfectly solve our problem is simply beyond our budget. We also haven't allocated much for this. I couldn't have known beforehand that we would end up with the one neighbor who does something like this. Otherwise, no one else in the entire new development is creating noise issues; it’s really just ours. 🙄
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