Hello everyone!
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
guckuck2 schrieb:
Since the relationship seems to be pretty good, just address it openly. You have already asked several times in the past to lower the volume. In fact, it bothers you much more often than the times you have actually mentioned it. You want to find a permanent solution. If avoiding music or significantly lowering the volume isn’t an option, then only a sound barrier wall would be feasible. The passive-aggressive reaction is out of the question since I want to have peace, and blasting Rammstein to annoy the neighbors wouldn’t 1. improve our currently good relationship, and 2. would annoy me more than the neighbors. 😉
I will bring it up again in a personal conversation and have noticed that they have already turned the volume down compared to Father’s Day. But the fact remains, it still bothers me. I’m not even sure if it can still be called normal room volume since it’s not played inside one room and the sound can travel completely unhindered along my house wall. Also, the bass thumping while watching TV in our living room—with closed windows and lowered blinds—is disturbing. It’s still audible in addition to our own TV.
But it doesn’t really matter to me; I would rather solve it at my own expense than cause the neighbors (whom we really like, though this often gets overlooked in such matters) lasting discomfort.
What type of wall would you suggest?
From an aesthetic perspective, I would lean toward brick or clinker brick. However, those new ones cost about 30–40 €/m² (around 28–38 USD/m²), so they’re not exactly cheap either.
We’re also considering our patio stones, which look quite nice from the side and cost only about 14 €/m² (about 13 USD/m²). However, this price probably refers to the stones laid on the ground. I’m not sure how expensive it would be for 1 m² (about 10.8 sq ft) of a built wall; I’d have to calculate that based on their size.
I also don’t know if you can or are allowed to use them for that purpose, since it’s basically a different use.
haydee schrieb:
Try using a noise barrier wall for the garden area near the terrace Gabion fence, at least 200cm (80 inches) high.
haydee schrieb:
I was actually thinking more about Kokowall, and not the simplest versionI have also come across Kokowall. Our system would cost around €4000, but it would look nice and is exactly what we’re looking for. I’m wondering if it’s possible to achieve something like that more affordably by doing it ourselves, for example with a wire mesh fence and insulating panels, like cork?
Or is there something else that would be suitable for this?
What bothers me most are the bass frequencies (this is also what can be heard through the walls inside the house). Someone here in the forum said that I mainly need mass to reduce it. So rather a wall made of concrete, bricks, and mortar?
kati1337 schrieb:
What bothers me most are the bass frequencies (this is also what can be heard through the walls inside the house). Someone here in the forum said that I mainly need mass to reduce this. So, rather a wall/concrete/brick and mortar?Yes. The most cost-effective option would be a gabion wall. You can even build it yourself. Use at least 200 cm (80 inches) in height—if that seems too bulky, you could lighten the wall by incorporating laminated safety glass (LSG) panels inside or on top as a finishing element—whether clear or frosted is your choice.
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