Hello everyone!
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
The neighbors have enclosed their property with a hedge on their side.
I know I can request a boundary fence, but I can’t dictate what they use to enclose their own property. And the small plants often used to start a new hedge are usually only 30cm (12 inches) tall, which doesn’t help much when looking toward the shed.
Clematis is beautiful; I had it in my old rented garden. But for that, I would need something for it to climb on, right? Then I’m faced with the fence issue again—do I have to set something in concrete for that?
I know I can request a boundary fence, but I can’t dictate what they use to enclose their own property. And the small plants often used to start a new hedge are usually only 30cm (12 inches) tall, which doesn’t help much when looking toward the shed.
Clematis is beautiful; I had it in my old rented garden. But for that, I would need something for it to climb on, right? Then I’m faced with the fence issue again—do I have to set something in concrete for that?
Just when I thought I had chosen “plants instead of a fence,” I went outside and there was music in the garden again. I think the bass has decreased a bit since we last talked, but the overall volume is still quite high for my taste. As long as we stay inside today, the disturbance is manageable, but now that I have a terrace and a table, I’d also like to sit outside in the afternoon when the weather is as nice as it is today.
But I don’t want to be subjected to loud music while doing so. It’s gotten to the point where I’d rather stay inside on a sunny day like today than listen to country music in the garden. :/
I just don’t know what to do. Somehow, I have to find a solution.
I can’t forbid them from playing music in their own garden. But unfortunately, that always means we end up hearing the same music in our garden. And I would prefer to have some peace and quiet.
If a fence doesn’t help, what would? Just as a thought experiment, ignoring costs (maybe I’ll win the lottery)?
I could also buy a few square meters of stones and try to build a wall along the property boundary (of course with the proper distance). That should help reduce the noise, right?
But I don’t want to be subjected to loud music while doing so. It’s gotten to the point where I’d rather stay inside on a sunny day like today than listen to country music in the garden. :/
I just don’t know what to do. Somehow, I have to find a solution.
I can’t forbid them from playing music in their own garden. But unfortunately, that always means we end up hearing the same music in our garden. And I would prefer to have some peace and quiet.
If a fence doesn’t help, what would? Just as a thought experiment, ignoring costs (maybe I’ll win the lottery)?
I could also buy a few square meters of stones and try to build a wall along the property boundary (of course with the proper distance). That should help reduce the noise, right?
kati1337 schrieb:
Just when I thought I had decided on "plants instead of a fence," I go outside and there's music in the garden again. I think since we talked the other day, the bass has gotten a bit lower, but the overall volume is still quite high for my taste. It’s actually okay as long as we stay inside the living room today, but now I have a patio and a table, and I’d also like to sit outside in the afternoon when the weather is nice like today.
But I don’t want to be disturbed by the sound. It’s reached the point that I’d rather stay inside the house on a sunny day like today than listen to country music in the garden. :/
I just don’t know what to do. Somehow I need to find a solution. I wrote about this topic just two weeks ago—especially when it comes to bass, only mass helps. So not thin hedges, but something solid and continuous.
If in doubt, you can enclose the patio by building a cold conservatory out of glass: when the neighbor turns up the volume, you just slide the glass door closed, and vice versa. Otherwise, the only options are a quieter neighbor or a different house with more distance from your patio, or you relocate the patio to another corner of your property.
Not very elegant, but the simplest solution: ear defenders.
Here is the thread and an alternative solution
ᐅ Good soundproofing elements near the property line – recommendations? Page 2 | Experiences from homeowners and building experts (hausbau-forum.de)
ᐅ Good soundproofing elements near the property line – recommendations? Page 2 | Experiences from homeowners and building experts (hausbau-forum.de)
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