Hello everyone!
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
I’ve mentioned before that we plan to install a wooden privacy fence along the side of our property bordering the neighbor. The plan was for rounded fence panels, 180cm (71 inches) tall at the highest point and the same width.
The local DIY store gave me a quote for the materials, including delivery. Normally, this store is not particularly expensive.
The total for materials for 19.5m (64 feet) of fencing came to over 1000€. The panels themselves were about 500€, with the rest being the “miscellaneous parts.” One costly item is the wood stain planned (three times 4L (1 gallon) of Bondex long-lasting protective stain) for nearly 200€. The advisor also said we need to use H-posts and set them in concrete. He quoted a 40kg (88 lbs) bag of screed concrete for each post.
I know that here in northern Germany it’s probably better to set the posts in concrete, but do I really need 400kg (880 lbs) of concrete for a 19.5m (64 feet) wooden fence? It seems crazy to me.
With L-brackets, screws, posts, etc., the entire project came to just over 1000€, and then we still have to assemble it ourselves — and we’re not sure if we can manage that. I had originally thought of using the quick-setting concrete that only needs watering, but I expected 2–3 bags would be enough.
Do you think the quote for materials is realistic? I’m a bit shocked.
Now we’re considering alternatives. For example, I could order a mixed package of “natural hedge bouquet” with 160 plants online for about 280€, which would green up the whole garden and cost only about a quarter of what the fence would. However, the noise insulation to the neighbor’s property would probably be weaker than with a wooden fence (anyone with experience here?), and we would have to wait a few years until the plants grow tall enough to screen the view of the metal shed. But honestly, I’d almost prefer to invest a four-figure amount in greenery rather than in a fence.
What would you recommend?
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Ypsi aus NI1 Jun 2021 10:15What do the neighbors on the other side think about it, or are there none?
I mean the other neighbors of the music lovers.
I mean the other neighbors of the music lovers.
kati1337 schrieb:
- Brick wall construction using facing bricks; however, at least 1000-1500 bricks for the area plus mortar, concrete for the foundation, and some fittings. So more like 2k. That would naturally be the most visually appealing solution. You do realize that the foundation should be at least 80 cm deep (plus 20 cm drainage!) and extend slightly beyond the thickness of the wall? For a length of 20 meters and a depth of 30 cm (12 inches), that amounts to 6 cubic meters of excavation, 8 cubic meters of spoil that needs to be disposed of, and at least one load of concrete costing more than 500 euros plus 2 cubic meters of gravel.
Additionally, 12 cubic meters of bricks are needed for a 2-meter (6.5 feet) high wall.
That means several truckloads arriving at your site... I also don’t think you’ll be able to manage that for "more like 2k" as a DIY project.
When considering the wall solution, don’t forget that it could cause sound from the other side to be “reflected” back toward you.
I’m currently sitting in my parents’ newly designed garden. I can hear the direct neighbors very little over the 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in) high natural stone wall (well, they’re not playing pop music right now), but I do hear neighbors on a completely different side who seem to be having a dice game tournament.
What I mean is, this might not help you much, and in the end, you could spend time and money and still end up stressed out. So, why not save a bit and invest in a proper soundproofing solution?
My in-laws have walls like that between their terraced houses, and it blocks noise surprisingly well.
I’m currently sitting in my parents’ newly designed garden. I can hear the direct neighbors very little over the 1.60 m (5 ft 3 in) high natural stone wall (well, they’re not playing pop music right now), but I do hear neighbors on a completely different side who seem to be having a dice game tournament.
What I mean is, this might not help you much, and in the end, you could spend time and money and still end up stressed out. So, why not save a bit and invest in a proper soundproofing solution?
My in-laws have walls like that between their terraced houses, and it blocks noise surprisingly well.
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pagoni20201 Jun 2021 10:44kati1337 schrieb:
but I think the solution that would perfectly solve our problem is simply unaffordable for us.In that case, I would do absolutely nothing and keep looking, otherwise you will still lose a lot of money and your problem will remain unchanged. I believe you need to spend more time searching, listening, experimenting, and gathering broad information. For me, a "half-hearted" but affordable solution is not an option.
minimini schrieb:
What I mean is, this might not really help you, and then you’ve invested time and money but still end up stressed out. What’s the downside of saving a bit more and opting for a proper soundproofing solution? Mainly that if we have to keep saving for that long, we won’t be able to use the garden, and we’d also like to enjoy the terrace on Sundays.
It’s already really frustrating for me even when watching TV. It just can’t be that I built a detached house and can’t watch TV in peace on a Sunday evening. 🙁
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