Hello,
we would like to use black (true black, 9005) for our entire house. The window manufacturer advised against it because we have a south-facing side, and the windows would heat up too much. Our windows are quite large: 4m (13 feet) lift-and-slide windows with external blinds and awnings, and 2m (6.5 feet) casement windows with roller shutters.
I am interested to know if anyone here has experience with this. Is black significantly worse than anthracite? And what could happen if they heat up too much?
Thank you all
we would like to use black (true black, 9005) for our entire house. The window manufacturer advised against it because we have a south-facing side, and the windows would heat up too much. Our windows are quite large: 4m (13 feet) lift-and-slide windows with external blinds and awnings, and 2m (6.5 feet) casement windows with roller shutters.
I am interested to know if anyone here has experience with this. Is black significantly worse than anthracite? And what could happen if they heat up too much?
Thank you all
Hello again,
after much consideration, we have now decided to choose an aluminum shell (Aluskin by Aluplast 8000). The main reason is the hope that the color will stay nice for longer, and colored finishes on aluminum look much nicer than on plastic.
However, we haven’t quite finalized the color yet... Since RAL 7021 is now also available on aluminum, it has replaced RAL 7016 for us (which now looks too blue). RAL 9005 might be too harsh.
Now for the big question: RAL 7021 or DB703 on aluminum? By the way, our front door has a black frame.
after much consideration, we have now decided to choose an aluminum shell (Aluskin by Aluplast 8000). The main reason is the hope that the color will stay nice for longer, and colored finishes on aluminum look much nicer than on plastic.
However, we haven’t quite finalized the color yet... Since RAL 7021 is now also available on aluminum, it has replaced RAL 7016 for us (which now looks too blue). RAL 9005 might be too harsh.
Now for the big question: RAL 7021 or DB703 on aluminum? By the way, our front door has a black frame.
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nordanney12 Jun 2024 12:45Ari_tau schrieb:
Now for the million-dollar question: RAL 7021 or DB703 on aluminum? Neither – I would go no darker than RAL 7012. Personally, I find anything else too dark and too heat-absorbing under direct sunlight.
Besides, the two colors you mentioned are quite different. For me, DB703 is out because it’s too distinctive.
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House Grey20 Aug 2024 21:10I can tell you that our entire house was painted with thermal insulation paint in 7016 (Anthracite, almost black), and it doesn’t heat up.
Even the staff at the hardware store advised against using this color for the facade paint mix. It looks great and stays cool, so you can confidently go ahead with the window installation.
Near us, there is a construction site building with black windows—even with divided panes—and a white facade. It looks fantastic. I’d be happy to take a photo for you.
Even the staff at the hardware store advised against using this color for the facade paint mix. It looks great and stays cool, so you can confidently go ahead with the window installation.
Near us, there is a construction site building with black windows—even with divided panes—and a white facade. It looks fantastic. I’d be happy to take a photo for you.
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nordanney20 Aug 2024 22:40House Grey schrieb:
It looks great and it’s cool, so go ahead and take the risk of installing the window.Have you ever touched a black car in the summer? It’s just as cool as a window frame. You can’t compare facade insulation to a window frame.C
Costruttrice20 Aug 2024 22:58We have almost completed our first summer with wood-aluminum windows, a wood-aluminum front door, and a garage door all in RAL 9005. The door, garage, and floor-to-ceiling patio doors are on the south side. I haven’t gotten burnt on the door, and everything looks great so far. No cracks have appeared, and we’re glad we chose this option.
In our old house, we had RAL 7016 uPVC windows, which did occasionally make some noise in the evenings when it cooled down in summer, but it was never disturbing. They did not warp at all over nearly 15 years, even on the south and west sides.
In our old house, we had RAL 7016 uPVC windows, which did occasionally make some noise in the evenings when it cooled down in summer, but it was never disturbing. They did not warp at all over nearly 15 years, even on the south and west sides.
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MachsSelbst21 Aug 2024 08:42Physics is physics. The summer of 2024 was far from record-breaking and really cannot be taken as proof that a completely black box works. Just wait until you have 4 or 5 weeks of temperatures consistently above 30°C (86°F), with some days exceeding 40°C (104°F), and no cooling rain... such summers have happened before.
Then people might claim it works without issues... I also know people who say they manage without winter tires. However, they don’t have to commute in harsh weather, and we haven’t had really severe winters with weeks of ice and snow for some time either.
You can twist and turn it however you want. Black windows are significantly more prone to expansion and the related issues and damage, and the same applies to dark-colored facades. Materials also fatigue over time when they repeatedly expand and contract. The more intense this movement, the sooner fatigue develops.
Then people might claim it works without issues... I also know people who say they manage without winter tires. However, they don’t have to commute in harsh weather, and we haven’t had really severe winters with weeks of ice and snow for some time either.
You can twist and turn it however you want. Black windows are significantly more prone to expansion and the related issues and damage, and the same applies to dark-colored facades. Materials also fatigue over time when they repeatedly expand and contract. The more intense this movement, the sooner fatigue develops.
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