ᐅ Installation of Windows – Sliding Patio Doors Long-Term Experience
Created on: 27 Apr 2018 08:25
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Hello,
I currently have the following offer for windows. Fortunately, I am able to get the windows and doors through family for less than half the price, so there is some budget available to possibly choose higher-quality window options.
However, I did not feel optimally advised in the store. For example, I was bothered by comments such as triple glazing not being absolutely necessary and that there are no standard sizes. These statements may not be wrong, but for me, double glazing no longer seems up to date for a new build. It is true that any window size can be made, but I want to make sure that retrofits like insect screens don’t have to be custom-made because my windows are 3 cm (1 inch) narrower, but rather that “normal” sizes that are always available will fit.
So far, it is clear that the windows are a bit too narrow for me. I am thinking of 1100 mm x 1385 mm (43 inches x 54 inches). Is this a common size, or would you recommend around 2-3 cm (1 inch) more? Privately, I was also recommended a mushroom-head lock (there is an apple orchard belonging to the municipality behind our property, then just forest).
Do you see any other useful additions? The construction will comply with Energy Saving Ordinance 16.
PS: Can you share any long-term experiences with sliding patio doors?
I currently have the following offer for windows. Fortunately, I am able to get the windows and doors through family for less than half the price, so there is some budget available to possibly choose higher-quality window options.
However, I did not feel optimally advised in the store. For example, I was bothered by comments such as triple glazing not being absolutely necessary and that there are no standard sizes. These statements may not be wrong, but for me, double glazing no longer seems up to date for a new build. It is true that any window size can be made, but I want to make sure that retrofits like insect screens don’t have to be custom-made because my windows are 3 cm (1 inch) narrower, but rather that “normal” sizes that are always available will fit.
So far, it is clear that the windows are a bit too narrow for me. I am thinking of 1100 mm x 1385 mm (43 inches x 54 inches). Is this a common size, or would you recommend around 2-3 cm (1 inch) more? Privately, I was also recommended a mushroom-head lock (there is an apple orchard belonging to the municipality behind our property, then just forest).
Do you see any other useful additions? The construction will comply with Energy Saving Ordinance 16.
PS: Can you share any long-term experiences with sliding patio doors?
No, just a username. You know the floor plan from a private conversation about the windows ;-)
I’m bringing this up because it’s exactly the topic we discussed yesterday. Do you have to follow a style completely once you’ve started it, or can you, of course very carefully, mix elements without breaking the style?
Yes, besides a Frisian gable, we are also getting a classic red facing brick. Do we have to follow this direction all the way through? Then the green front door must not be missing alongside the divided windows.
In the end, we might end up creating a "Pinterest Frisian house" that you wouldn’t even find on Sylt. We would also have to redecorate completely, since hardly anything from our current apartment fits with it. Of course, this is a deliberate exaggeration.
To add to that, I’ll mention our kitchen purchase. We started out with the wish for a "country style." The first options didn’t appeal to us because it was somehow too much. In the end, we agreed on the "modern country style." This seems to be a term that is becoming established right now.
I’m not trying to find reasons to sugarcoat something that isn’t, but I want to point out that I can imagine combining some modern elements—like a lift-and-slide door you might expect more in a city villa—with a classic house type.
If that succeeds, it would absolutely reflect our taste. But as mentioned above, in order not to break the style, that is admittedly walking a fine line.
For this house, lift-and-slide doors at least seem quite un-Frisian ;-)
I’m bringing this up because it’s exactly the topic we discussed yesterday. Do you have to follow a style completely once you’ve started it, or can you, of course very carefully, mix elements without breaking the style?
Yes, besides a Frisian gable, we are also getting a classic red facing brick. Do we have to follow this direction all the way through? Then the green front door must not be missing alongside the divided windows.
In the end, we might end up creating a "Pinterest Frisian house" that you wouldn’t even find on Sylt. We would also have to redecorate completely, since hardly anything from our current apartment fits with it. Of course, this is a deliberate exaggeration.
To add to that, I’ll mention our kitchen purchase. We started out with the wish for a "country style." The first options didn’t appeal to us because it was somehow too much. In the end, we agreed on the "modern country style." This seems to be a term that is becoming established right now.
I’m not trying to find reasons to sugarcoat something that isn’t, but I want to point out that I can imagine combining some modern elements—like a lift-and-slide door you might expect more in a city villa—with a classic house type.
If that succeeds, it would absolutely reflect our taste. But as mentioned above, in order not to break the style, that is admittedly walking a fine line.
Lobster schrieb:
No, just a username. You know the floor plan from a private conversation about the windows ;-) Ah, now I do ;-)
I wrote: "3) For the patio door, consider using a French door with a mullion (the plan shows a center post);" and (referring to a three-part patio door) "The size of the patio door is fine as is. However, it is shown with a center post between the operable wings. Therefore, I recommend specifically requesting French doors without the center post, so it is not accidentally designed with one. Homeowners often overlook this in the review drawings. I used to work in window manufacturing, so you learn to watch out for these details." What I had not yet considered, however, was cleaning the inside of the roller shutter on the fixed wing.
An ideal alternative to a folding sliding door could be: cascade the French doors within wings 2 and 3. That means wings 1 and 2 behave like a two-wing French door, and wing 3 can be unlocked when wing 2 is open, which you would only do for cleaning purposes.
With three equal parts, each wing has a clear passage width under 80cm (31.5 inches). In practice, this means wing 1 is sufficient for ventilation and letting the cat in and out, but when carrying a tray of food, you will likely want wing 2 open as well.
Lobster schrieb:
Do you have to fully commit to one architectural style once you have started, or can you, of course very carefully, mix styles without creating a mismatch? Since there is no second gable on the relevant side – ships with two captains must surely be a landlubber invention – I see no sacrilege here in having a lift-and-slide door (provided that this is already the full extent of free interpretation of the Frisian house pattern on this side). But then please, promised, without glazing bars ;-)
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