ᐅ Which type of camera is suitable for the main entrance area of a house?

Created on: 21 May 2020 14:29
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ivenh0
I
ivenh0
21 May 2020 14:29
Hello everyone,

We are looking for an IP camera for our driveway and entrance area. The Dahua 5442 series sounds very promising. Therefore, I have planned an IP-B5442E-ZE for the driveway area. It will be mounted in a corner at about 2.50m (8 feet) height and should cover the driveway at a 90° angle. The range required is only 10m (33 feet). Is the bullet shape suitable for this, or would an eyeball model be better?

Modern driveway with gray garage door, white wall, and paved forecourt; hedge behind fence.

Top view of a paved driveway with a black car on the left, green hedge on the right.


The entrance area is much more complex. Here, at least 180° need to be covered. In addition, there are several steps leading down quite a bit. The area behind the house should also be visible if possible. Is the IPC-HDPW5442G-Z suitable for this? Or how would you best cover this area? Unfortunately, I have only installed Simplex CAT cable as you can see in the photo.

Modern white house facade with balcony overhang, door, window, planter, and yellow hose.

View from the stairs to a parked black car in front of a modern building.
rick201821 May 2020 16:58
The IP-B5442E-ZE would fit in the courtyard based on the data. But be sure to consider bird deterrence right away.
A dome camera is less conspicuous when mounted with a hood and doesn’t serve as a bird perch.

At the main entrance area, you could use a PTZ camera (as mentioned). However, I would look more for a fixed 180° camera. PTZ cameras make sense when you have multiple cameras with overlapping views and active monitoring. Let’s not even get into motion detection right now...
I’m more familiar with Axis, Mobotix, and Vivotek.
Possibly the Hikvision ds-2cd2t45g0p-i (1.68mm)?
Really cool would be a Vivotek ms9390-hv.
K
knalltüte
21 May 2020 17:22
... don’t forget: The camera must not even give the impression that public areas could be monitored! Therefore, PTZ cameras are generally not suitable...

(so-called "surveillance pressure" must not occur)

Also: People entering the property should be informed about this (put up a sign)

Ignoring these "rules" can potentially lead to very costly consequences
untergasse4321 May 2020 17:25
superzapp schrieb:

... don’t forget: The camera must not even give the impression
that it could be monitoring public space! That’s why
PTZ cameras are usually not suitable ...

Why? A black PTZ dome camera, or domes in general, don’t reveal where they are actually pointing. This is different with turret or bullet cameras (which are usually better than domes; interested neighbors would just see my masking). Otherwise, I would only use PTZ cameras where you really need to look in many different directions. Usually, the camera ends up pointing exactly where the action isn’t.
K
knalltüte
21 May 2020 17:32
untergasse43 schrieb:

Why? A black PTZ dome, or a dome camera in general, doesn’t really show where it is currently pointing. That’s different with turret or bullet cameras (which are usually better than domes; an interested neighbor will then just see my masking). Otherwise, I would only use PTZ cameras where there is a real need to look in many different directions. Usually, the camera points exactly where the event is not happening.

Well, the lawmakers have already ruled on this quite a few times. The impression of surveillance pressure must not arise in the first place. Whether this is caused more by a PTZ camera or not?! ... well, everyone has to decide that for themselves. I just wanted to point out that this should potentially be taken into account to avoid future legal disputes.
rick201821 May 2020 17:53
There are court rulings stating that masking alone is not sufficient and that some form of privacy screen was required in certain cases.

Install a discreet dome camera (around 120° field of view) pointing toward the garage. Even if someone looks closely, it will seem like the gate is being monitored. Since the camera has a wide-angle lens, you will also see the yard.

No one will recognize a PTZ camera anyway, but that’s not relevant for your application.

You are legally required to put up a sign. However, where there is no complainant, enforcement is unlikely... I suspect that the sign mainly makes people more aware of the surveillance. Personally, I would not put one up. If a complaint arises, you can always make adjustments later. For private use, significant penalties usually don’t apply at first.

In our case, it’s simpler because we have only one access point. We put up a sign there. Within my property, I am then allowed to monitor...

My (only) neighbor even suggested monitoring part of his property as well. I could install cameras there, too...