Hello! I wanted to ask which security rating you chose for your windows? I was advised to have RC2 on the ground floor and RC1N on the upper floors. The architect says this might not be necessary and would add about €1600. Best regards
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Caspar20202 May 2017 11:17Nutshell schrieb:
RC1/2/3 glass panes are easily broken.Actually, with RC2 (without N) laminated safety glass is usually included. That isn't easy to break quickly, at least not with standard burglary tools.
Nutshell schrieb:
The other, more cautious thieves who start prying windows open are less dangerous and mostly come during the day.Aha, so my house shouldn’t be protected because of that?
Nutshell schrieb:
In my opinion, burglars with violent intentions won’t be stopped by RC3.Most burglars operate commercially. In other words, quick in, quick out, maximum profit, and ideally hitting multiple properties in one evening. They have no interest in violence or bringing heavy tools.
The vast majority make it easy because in many cases there aren’t even mushroom locks installed. In those cases, a small crowbar or a larger screwdriver is enough.
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Hendrik0072 May 2017 11:21Nutshell schrieb:
I wasn’t fooling myself; it will definitely happen only at RC4/RC5. And do you have RC5 now, or did you decide to forgo thorough security altogether? That’s a strange argument.
Baumeister6012 May 2017 09:31Hendrik007 schrieb:
So, do you have RC5 now, or did you prefer to forgo all security measures? That’s a strange argument.All or nothing!S
Sonnengarten16 May 2017 15:39We have spent quite some time considering this topic and fortunately have now reached a decision.
It partly depends on the area you live in; burglary statistics can be helpful, as well as whether the location is remote or has neighbors close by. Then there’s the size of the house and any outward signs of wealth, such as luxury cars. Of course, personal negative experiences with break-ins or a general feeling of security also play a role.
We have now decided on RC2 N windows, but with a laminated safety glass (VSG) layer between the first and second panes (we have triple glazing) for all windows on the ground floor, which is slightly below the usual standard. For the ground floor, basement, and upper floor, we chose RC1 N, which is also resistant to break-ins but somewhat more affordable. One thing to consider, besides the purchase price, is that the stronger safety glass can put more strain on the hinges and they may wear out faster. Also, in an emergency, it might be more difficult for someone to enter the house quickly.
It partly depends on the area you live in; burglary statistics can be helpful, as well as whether the location is remote or has neighbors close by. Then there’s the size of the house and any outward signs of wealth, such as luxury cars. Of course, personal negative experiences with break-ins or a general feeling of security also play a role.
We have now decided on RC2 N windows, but with a laminated safety glass (VSG) layer between the first and second panes (we have triple glazing) for all windows on the ground floor, which is slightly below the usual standard. For the ground floor, basement, and upper floor, we chose RC1 N, which is also resistant to break-ins but somewhat more affordable. One thing to consider, besides the purchase price, is that the stronger safety glass can put more strain on the hinges and they may wear out faster. Also, in an emergency, it might be more difficult for someone to enter the house quickly.
sven.conzi16 May 2017 18:42Sonnengarten schrieb:
We spent quite some time researching this topic and fortunately have now made a decision.
It depends on the area you live in, where burglary statistics can be helpful. Also whether the house is isolated or has neighbors close by, the size of the house, and any visible signs indicating wealth, such as luxury cars, etc.
Of course, personal negative experiences with break-ins or a general feeling of security also play a role.
We have now decided on RC2 N windows, but with a laminated safety glass (VSG) layer between the first and second panes (we have triple glazing) for all windows on the ground floor that are slightly below standard. For the ground floor, basement, and upper floor, we chose RC1 N. These still provide some burglary resistance and are somewhat more affordable. One thing to consider beyond the purchase price is that stronger safety glass puts more strain on the hinges, which may lead to faster wear. Also, in an emergency, it might take longer for anyone to break into the house… If RC1 N is used on the ground floor, basement, and upper floor, where exactly is RC2 N installed? Also, RC2 N with laminated glass is still RC2, since the N stands for normal glass.
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Sonnengarten16 May 2017 21:37sven.conzi schrieb:
If the ground floor, basement, and upper floor are all RC 1 N, where is RC 2 N installed? Since RC 2 N with laminated safety glass (LSG) is actually RC 2 (N stands for standard glass)That's right, it was a bit confusingly written... On the ground floor, RC2 N is installed, which initially means that standard glass is used here instead of LSG of class P4A, which is the norm for RC 2. However, to provide a bit more security on the ground floor, we were offered as a compromise a "simpler" LSG, now classified as P2A, which is also connected to the frame between the two outer panes. In terms of cost, this was half the price of the P4A standard.
The basement and upper floor are RC1 N, where I understand RC1 to always mean without LSG, so also no N in the designation.
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