Hello,
we are planning our new build with a developer and have an appointment with the electrician soon.
I am working on the LAN planning.
I will plan enough LAN connections for every room and also in the garage.
Should we use a mesh Wi-Fi router system, for example Netgear Orbi, Amazon Eero (one unit on each floor or in the most important rooms, which can be expanded as needed if there are coverage gaps) or something similar, or does it have to be an expensive PoE access point network?
I would say we are users with a higher-than-average standard.
I want to have good Wi-Fi coverage throughout the house so that I always have enough Wi-Fi on my phone for browsing.
A speed of 50–100 Mbps on the phone would be sufficient, but it should be stable (we will have a 500 Mbps or maybe only a 250 Mbps connection).
Do the access points have to be PoE devices mounted on the ceiling, or is that maybe a bit too much for us?
Or is a regular mesh router system (e.g., Netgear Orbi) enough for us?
Running the PoE cables will most likely be very expensive with the electrician (typical for developer projects :/ ).
we are planning our new build with a developer and have an appointment with the electrician soon.
I am working on the LAN planning.
I will plan enough LAN connections for every room and also in the garage.
Should we use a mesh Wi-Fi router system, for example Netgear Orbi, Amazon Eero (one unit on each floor or in the most important rooms, which can be expanded as needed if there are coverage gaps) or something similar, or does it have to be an expensive PoE access point network?
I would say we are users with a higher-than-average standard.
I want to have good Wi-Fi coverage throughout the house so that I always have enough Wi-Fi on my phone for browsing.
A speed of 50–100 Mbps on the phone would be sufficient, but it should be stable (we will have a 500 Mbps or maybe only a 250 Mbps connection).
Do the access points have to be PoE devices mounted on the ceiling, or is that maybe a bit too much for us?
Or is a regular mesh router system (e.g., Netgear Orbi) enough for us?
Running the PoE cables will most likely be very expensive with the electrician (typical for developer projects :/ ).
11ant schrieb:
The end devices that are “optional” in terms of redecorating are not connected at both the old and new locations at the same time. Therefore, the outlet at one of the two locations is unused (and thus does not occupy a port on the switch, only on the patch panel). Are you still confused at this point? Not confused, I think we are just talking past each other...
I understand mathematically that the number of currently used connections (and therefore required ports) is reduced by those used optionally.
The question was which switch I should choose. So again: I have 20 ports permanently occupied by devices and need a maximum of 4 additional PoE-capable ports.
- 24-port PoE switch I understand that a dedicated PoE switch has a higher (base) power consumption
- Two separate switches (= is that the plural?) smaller PoE switch and larger non-PoE uplink bottleneck between switches
- Switch that can do both
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RotorMotor9 Jan 2023 12:48Having 20 ports permanently in use is really quite a lot for a single-family house.
Is that really the case, or is there already a significant buffer included?
What kind of router is being used?
Is that really the case, or is there already a significant buffer included?
What kind of router is being used?
Now I wanted to find out for myself and went to the construction site today to count: there are 23 in total. Of these, 4 are spare ports in the children's rooms, and 1 in the garage, which I had included (who knows what the charging station might need later?). I would consider these 5 optional.
The rest are mostly in use. Even if it’s "just" for the kitchen appliance. All 4 ports on the TV wall are occupied; here I would have preferred to plan for some spares. The plan was to have everything connected via LAN or at least 1 connection in every room (in the guest room, we have only 1). I should also mention that we both need home office workspaces. So I don’t think it’s too many.
I haven’t chosen a router yet. The all-rounder seems to be a Fritzbox. Currently, we are using an Easybox 805, but it’s in the (rental) apartment with a tangle of cables and a lot of (poor) Wi-Fi. If the Easybox is sufficient, then we will keep it.
In that sense, I can slightly revise my post from earlier today and reduce it to about 19 ports + 4 PoE ports.
The rest are mostly in use. Even if it’s "just" for the kitchen appliance. All 4 ports on the TV wall are occupied; here I would have preferred to plan for some spares. The plan was to have everything connected via LAN or at least 1 connection in every room (in the guest room, we have only 1). I should also mention that we both need home office workspaces. So I don’t think it’s too many.
I haven’t chosen a router yet. The all-rounder seems to be a Fritzbox. Currently, we are using an Easybox 805, but it’s in the (rental) apartment with a tangle of cables and a lot of (poor) Wi-Fi. If the Easybox is sufficient, then we will keep it.
In that sense, I can slightly revise my post from earlier today and reduce it to about 19 ports + 4 PoE ports.
Jentopa schrieb:
All four ports on the TV wall are already in use; I would have preferred to include some spare ones here.I simply use a compact 5 to 8-port PoE switch that connects directly to the double socket. They are small and inexpensive (in my case, a UniFi system). I also install double sockets in various locations. But why should I install 4, 6, or more sockets? Speed is not an argument either – by the time it reaches the main switch, that’s already taken care of.
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RotorMotor9 Jan 2023 21:31Hmm, it seems to me that you are still counting ports when planning the build, rather than the devices that are actually in use there. And what kind of kitchen appliance has a network connection?
But okay, so a standard 24-port switch will suffice, with at least 4 PoE ports.
But okay, so a standard 24-port switch will suffice, with at least 4 PoE ports.
With 20 devices active at the same time, the power consumption of the PoE switch no longer really matters ;-)
But I think @RotorMotor is right. The original poster is counting connection ports in the rooms that can be used, not the ones actually occupied by connected devices at the same time, which determine the number of switch ports—not the number of ports on the patch panel, which ideally should match the number of ports at the wall outlets (phew, long sentence ;-).
-> 24-port Gigabit switch + 8-port PoE switch (8-port, since I don’t know any 5-port models suitable for 19" racks)
But I think @RotorMotor is right. The original poster is counting connection ports in the rooms that can be used, not the ones actually occupied by connected devices at the same time, which determine the number of switch ports—not the number of ports on the patch panel, which ideally should match the number of ports at the wall outlets (phew, long sentence ;-).
-> 24-port Gigabit switch + 8-port PoE switch (8-port, since I don’t know any 5-port models suitable for 19" racks)
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