ᐅ Which type of light switch is compatible with Philips Hue?

Created on: 22 Nov 2024 08:40
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FrankChief
Hello,

I want to start retrofitting smart home features in our house.

I want to begin with the lighting, and I have already chosen smart bulbs – Philips Hue.
I plan to use Philips Hue everywhere because they have the most complete range and a wide selection.
What I like most about Hue is their ability to display different colors and create various color gradients in scenes.

For the most part, I will only replace the light bulbs and only occasionally the entire fixture.

Philips Hue bulbs require constant power, so we definitely need to replace the light switches.

My question to you is: which light switch would you recommend for Philips Hue?

There is the Philips Hue wall module that supports all my needs, but (I don’t know why) it runs on batteries.
I don’t want to regularly remove the switches to change batteries.

Does anyone know of a light switch or in-wall module that can provide constant power to Hue and still pass the switch signal to Hue when operated?

The basic functions should still work even if the Hue Bridge or Home Assistant fails, so the main functions (ON and OFF) must continue to operate via the light switch.

The original in-wall module can establish a direct Zigbee connection to the bulb, and as long as both have power, the light switch can still turn the light on and off.

Is there an alternative that supports the original wall module’s functions but is powered directly (since power is available right at the light switch)?

Thank you very much for your tips.
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chand1986
22 Nov 2024 16:48
Zaba123 schrieb:

I can only speak for us, but it has been working perfectly in the dining room for all children and adults for 5.5 years.

I believe that. However, we have all switches throughout the entire house connected, including those for the electric blinds. Inevitably, there are situations where voice control is possible but not the best option. For example, when guests or cleaning staff are present, or during an unexpected two-day outage with Apple that temporarily made voice control unusable.

Also, I don’t like speaking at night when I need to use the bathroom—I don’t want to wake anyone.

In summary, I am not a fan of “pure” voice control, as it lacks comprehensive comfort improvements. On the other hand, I really like our system with multiple control options.
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nordanney
22 Nov 2024 17:36
chand1986 schrieb:

For situations where you want to turn it OFF without voice control.
This can be done with any switch. However, after that, turning it ON by voice control will no longer work.
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chand1986
22 Nov 2024 18:04
nordanney schrieb:

That works with any switch. Only afterward, voice activation no longer functions.
With push buttons, yes. They only send a brief OFF signal via radio but keep the physical circuit closed continuously.
kurzy16 Jan 2025 14:08
FrankChief schrieb:

Yes,
I just need an in-wall module that doesn’t trigger the relay when pressing the button or that doesn’t have a relay at all and can be paired directly with the lamp via Zigbee binding.

Does anyone know of such an in-wall module?

Yes, it was just introduced at CES and is expected to be available on the market in the next few months.
kurzy16 Jan 2025 15:03
kurzy schrieb:

Yes, it was just presented at CES and is expected to be released on the market within the next few months.

I mean the new Shelly modules, 4th generation – if all external links have to be removed anyway. Quite a frustrating approach here...
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jrth2151
16 Jan 2025 16:00
The Shellys should definitely be able to do that. You should take a look.

Otherwise, we have set it up so that the hallways are not smart. There is always a switch nearby, and smart lights are just annoying there. For nighttime, we use a small night light with brightness detection in the sockets. Alternatively, you could use smart lights combined with motion sensors. In bathrooms, we still find it unnecessary since you always pass by the switch and rarely have your hands full. For ambiance while bathing, we use candles.

So, the only smart areas in our home are the open-plan kitchen/living room, home office, bedroom, etc. Since we don’t really like using ceiling lights anyway, preferring many warm, dim, sometimes passive light sources, we didn’t have much choice. We only switch on the ceiling lights when we really need bright light (crafting, DIY, etc.), and these don’t need to be smart.

We created scenes like Dining, Game Night, Cooking, Movie, Good Night, which adjust the brightness of different lights, play music, lock the front door, and so on. A switch is basically unnecessary because, in our experience, smart lights change the atmosphere completely rather than just turning lights on or off.