Hello everyone,
We will have about 85 recessed ceiling spots in our new build. The Halo-X housings are already installed and wired on the ground floor. The cut-out diameter is 68 mm (2.7 inches).
Unfortunately, we probably won’t agree on the final price with the general contractor or his electrician. The spots were initially quoted at 85 euros each. Now the price is suddenly supposed to be double, just because they are adjustable; the 85 euros didn’t include the light bulb, etc. He said he would agree to some model where the price could stay at 85 euros, but the sample looked extremely cheap.
I’m likely going to pay the contractor for the housings and handle the rest myself. On the ground floor, it should be quite simple—I basically just need to clip the spotlights into the housings and connect the cables. Upstairs, I will have a cable run from the switch to the attic. I think I can install the spots into the drywall ceiling myself. I will have an electrician take care of the wiring.
I would appreciate advice regarding models and manufacturers of spotlights. Which brands are reliable? What color temperature should I choose (should it be the same in all rooms)? What wattage or luminous output is recommended?
We will have about 85 recessed ceiling spots in our new build. The Halo-X housings are already installed and wired on the ground floor. The cut-out diameter is 68 mm (2.7 inches).
Unfortunately, we probably won’t agree on the final price with the general contractor or his electrician. The spots were initially quoted at 85 euros each. Now the price is suddenly supposed to be double, just because they are adjustable; the 85 euros didn’t include the light bulb, etc. He said he would agree to some model where the price could stay at 85 euros, but the sample looked extremely cheap.
I’m likely going to pay the contractor for the housings and handle the rest myself. On the ground floor, it should be quite simple—I basically just need to clip the spotlights into the housings and connect the cables. Upstairs, I will have a cable run from the switch to the attic. I think I can install the spots into the drywall ceiling myself. I will have an electrician take care of the wiring.
I would appreciate advice regarding models and manufacturers of spotlights. Which brands are reliable? What color temperature should I choose (should it be the same in all rooms)? What wattage or luminous output is recommended?
We are using recessed frames from Sebson and spotlights from Ledon. The frames cost 5.99 EUR each and perfectly match our taste. The quality is acceptable, so there was no reason to spend more. For the spotlights, I installed 4W, 6W, and 8W versions. I would generally recommend only RA90 (color rendering index) bulbs, as they now cost only slightly more and provide more comfortable light. My tip: buy a few spotlights and an inexpensive clamp lamp for GU10 bulbs to test them out. After that, you’ll know which light color you prefer and approximately how much power you need. For the house as well, I wouldn’t buy all the spotlights at once but gradually and with some experimentation.
K
Knallkörper28 Sep 2016 08:52@Robbaut
Thanks for the detailed information. I also really like the frames. The dimmable GU10 lamp with 6W isn’t expensive either, 13 euros.
But I would still need to install a GU10 socket in each fixture box and do the wiring myself, is that correct? The plug socket is not included with the recessed frames, right?
Lamps with a mounting height of 110 mm (4.3 inches) fit into the recessed housings for concrete ceilings, so that should not be a problem.
Thanks for the detailed information. I also really like the frames. The dimmable GU10 lamp with 6W isn’t expensive either, 13 euros.
But I would still need to install a GU10 socket in each fixture box and do the wiring myself, is that correct? The plug socket is not included with the recessed frames, right?
Steven schrieb:
Hello
yes, the installation is the important part. With a suspended ceiling you have plenty of space. Concrete ceilings with fixture boxes don’t work with GU10, of course.
Steven
Lamps with a mounting height of 110 mm (4.3 inches) fit into the recessed housings for concrete ceilings, so that should not be a problem.
Hello Knallkörper
13 euros is a bit expensive. Take a look at the LED bulbs from Osram or Philips. They are sometimes on sale.
I bought GU10 sockets on eBay for a low price (I think it was 29 euros for 100 pieces).
With the money saved, your wife could get a nice diamond.
Steven
13 euros is a bit expensive. Take a look at the LED bulbs from Osram or Philips. They are sometimes on sale.
I bought GU10 sockets on eBay for a low price (I think it was 29 euros for 100 pieces).
With the money saved, your wife could get a nice diamond.
Steven
Steven schrieb:
You should clarify whether the current spotlights are high voltage or low voltage. With low voltage, the wiring might be 0.75mm² (about 18 AWG). If you use high voltage LEDs, I would definitely recommend a cross-section of 1.5mm² (about 15 AWG).
It all sounds complicated, but it’s not.
StevenIt actually seems to be. I am an electrical engineer by training, though not a lighting specialist, and I don’t understand why you would want a larger cable cross-section for high voltage. At higher voltage, less current is needed to deliver the same power and thus (depending on the light source) the same amount of light. Therefore, a smaller cable cross-section should be sufficient.
Knallkörper schrieb:
Thanks for the detailed info. I also like the frames. The dimmable GU10 lamp at 6W isn’t that expensive either, 13 euros.
I would then also need to install a GU10 socket in each junction box, meaning wiring it, is that correct? The socket base isn’t included with the mounting frames, right?Good evening!
The Sebson mounting frames do include GU10 sockets.
Philips and Osram with a CRI of 90 aren’t much cheaper either, right? I’m not up to date since I already have what I need. But here’s the tip again: try it out! Some LEDs flicker at relatively high frequency, which can bother some people.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a picture of the finished installation, but this is how it looked before:
One spotlight (6W, 35°) already produces a lot of light; several illuminate the entire hallway well.
Best regards
Rob
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