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Knallkörper23 Sep 2016 16:54Hello everyone,
We will have about 85 recessed ceiling spots in our new build. The Halo-X housings are already installed and wired on the ground floor. The cut-out diameter is 68 mm (2.7 inches).
Unfortunately, we probably won’t agree on the final price with the general contractor or his electrician. The spots were initially quoted at 85 euros each. Now the price is suddenly supposed to be double, just because they are adjustable; the 85 euros didn’t include the light bulb, etc. He said he would agree to some model where the price could stay at 85 euros, but the sample looked extremely cheap.
I’m likely going to pay the contractor for the housings and handle the rest myself. On the ground floor, it should be quite simple—I basically just need to clip the spotlights into the housings and connect the cables. Upstairs, I will have a cable run from the switch to the attic. I think I can install the spots into the drywall ceiling myself. I will have an electrician take care of the wiring.
I would appreciate advice regarding models and manufacturers of spotlights. Which brands are reliable? What color temperature should I choose (should it be the same in all rooms)? What wattage or luminous output is recommended?
We will have about 85 recessed ceiling spots in our new build. The Halo-X housings are already installed and wired on the ground floor. The cut-out diameter is 68 mm (2.7 inches).
Unfortunately, we probably won’t agree on the final price with the general contractor or his electrician. The spots were initially quoted at 85 euros each. Now the price is suddenly supposed to be double, just because they are adjustable; the 85 euros didn’t include the light bulb, etc. He said he would agree to some model where the price could stay at 85 euros, but the sample looked extremely cheap.
I’m likely going to pay the contractor for the housings and handle the rest myself. On the ground floor, it should be quite simple—I basically just need to clip the spotlights into the housings and connect the cables. Upstairs, I will have a cable run from the switch to the attic. I think I can install the spots into the drywall ceiling myself. I will have an electrician take care of the wiring.
I would appreciate advice regarding models and manufacturers of spotlights. Which brands are reliable? What color temperature should I choose (should it be the same in all rooms)? What wattage or luminous output is recommended?
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Knallkörper24 Sep 2016 08:37Thanks! I'll take a look.
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garfunkel24 Sep 2016 21:51What kind of spotlights cost €85???
I’ve had good experiences with Philips LED bulbs. A CRI value of 90 is recommended for a spotlight. The Philips ones with 2700K have a very similar appearance to halogen spots. Don’t forget the beam angle; otherwise, the light quickly becomes too column-like. Halogen spots have about 40°. Philips offers an LED spotlight that meets this specification.
The spotlights have a black housing or rear part.
The 5.5W ones are a bit brighter than the 35W halogen spots. Philips specifies their spots at 378 lumens.
I think 5.5W might be a bit too strong depending on the number of spots and the room size. In that case, the next smaller power level might be advisable.
You just have to experiment a bit.
I’ve had good experiences with Philips LED bulbs. A CRI value of 90 is recommended for a spotlight. The Philips ones with 2700K have a very similar appearance to halogen spots. Don’t forget the beam angle; otherwise, the light quickly becomes too column-like. Halogen spots have about 40°. Philips offers an LED spotlight that meets this specification.
The spotlights have a black housing or rear part.
The 5.5W ones are a bit brighter than the 35W halogen spots. Philips specifies their spots at 378 lumens.
I think 5.5W might be a bit too strong depending on the number of spots and the room size. In that case, the next smaller power level might be advisable.
You just have to experiment a bit.
Hello Knallkörper
85 euros for a spotlight is quite a steep price. I assume that includes installation and wiring.
A spotlight of decent quality certainly doesn’t cost less than 20 euros. Without the bulb.
As far as I know, most of them are designed for halogen bulbs and have a G4 socket.
I would definitely go for LEDs with a G10 socket. No problem. Just buy 100 G10 bulbs on eBay. Make sure they have a porcelain base. Use a screwdriver and screw them in. It’s very easy.
You should clarify whether your current spotlights are high voltage or low voltage. With low voltage, the wiring is often 0.75mm² (about 18 AWG). If you use high voltage LEDs, I would definitely recommend wiring with a cross section of 1.5mm² (about 15 AWG).
It all sounds complicated, but it really isn’t.
Steven
85 euros for a spotlight is quite a steep price. I assume that includes installation and wiring.
A spotlight of decent quality certainly doesn’t cost less than 20 euros. Without the bulb.
As far as I know, most of them are designed for halogen bulbs and have a G4 socket.
I would definitely go for LEDs with a G10 socket. No problem. Just buy 100 G10 bulbs on eBay. Make sure they have a porcelain base. Use a screwdriver and screw them in. It’s very easy.
You should clarify whether your current spotlights are high voltage or low voltage. With low voltage, the wiring is often 0.75mm² (about 18 AWG). If you use high voltage LEDs, I would definitely recommend wiring with a cross section of 1.5mm² (about 15 AWG).
It all sounds complicated, but it really isn’t.
Steven
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Knallkörper27 Sep 2016 11:34Hello Steven,
we have planned for high voltage.
So, there are actually no "LED spots," but rather spotlights with specific bases that can accommodate either halogen or LED bulbs. Okay.
we have planned for high voltage.
So, there are actually no "LED spots," but rather spotlights with specific bases that can accommodate either halogen or LED bulbs. Okay.
Knallkörper schrieb:
So, there are actually no "LED spots," but only spotlights with specific bases that can take either halogen or LED bulbs There are also LED lamps/spots where the bulb cannot be replaced. These are often very flat. Whereas GU10 bulbs have a certain size and build. GX53, on the other hand, is a shorter base.
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