Hello everyone,
we are building a two-story house with a finished attic (some work for the attic will take place later), including a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery.
Regarding the plaster:
I am currently considering cement-lime plaster. A friend who is an architect recommended clay plaster for the living areas, which I find interesting, but it is supposed to be significantly more expensive.
Area for plastering: approximately 550 m² (about 5920 sq ft) = around 7,500 €.
Regarding the painting work:
The ceilings (191 m² / about 2057 sq ft) will be done by professionals, including filling joints and subsequent smoothing.
I planned to just paint the walls (455 m² / about 4898 sq ft, excluding the attic), possibly doing some filling beforehand.
I contacted two painters, and both recommend using fleece on the ceilings and walls to prevent cracks.
Painter A:
- Covering/protection work
- Remove formwork release agent from ceilings
- Priming = prime surfaces with water-based deep primer diluted with water
- Close ceiling joints with mesh tape
- Filling = plaster walls to Q3 level. Apply and smooth the entire surface with gypsum filler, then sand the surface.
- Wallpapering = apply fleece wallpaper butt jointed on prepared surfaces (fleece wallpaper 180 g/m²)
- Painting = paint ceilings/walls twice with dispersion paint.
Wet abrasion resistance: Class 2
Opacity: Class 1
Gloss level: matte
His price = 15,000 €.
Painter B:
- Fill joints three times.
- Apply fleece on ceilings and paint twice.
- Finish corners.
- Fill walls, apply fleece, and paint twice.
His price: 13,000 €.
Possibly doing it myself = I feel confident painting myself, as I painted our current apartment. I think with Painter A I could exclude the painting, but with Painter B that is not possible.
Question:
Regarding the plaster: should I stick with cement-lime plaster?
I find clay plaster interesting, and one plasterer told me over the phone: clay plaster is more expensive, but the painter might have less work.
Regarding the painting work: is using fleece really useful (another painter said cracks will appear regardless)? Is it worth painting myself, or better to have it done professionally?
I want all walls in white, no fancy finishes.
Thanks a lot!!!
we are building a two-story house with a finished attic (some work for the attic will take place later), including a mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery.
Regarding the plaster:
I am currently considering cement-lime plaster. A friend who is an architect recommended clay plaster for the living areas, which I find interesting, but it is supposed to be significantly more expensive.
Area for plastering: approximately 550 m² (about 5920 sq ft) = around 7,500 €.
Regarding the painting work:
The ceilings (191 m² / about 2057 sq ft) will be done by professionals, including filling joints and subsequent smoothing.
I planned to just paint the walls (455 m² / about 4898 sq ft, excluding the attic), possibly doing some filling beforehand.
I contacted two painters, and both recommend using fleece on the ceilings and walls to prevent cracks.
Painter A:
- Covering/protection work
- Remove formwork release agent from ceilings
- Priming = prime surfaces with water-based deep primer diluted with water
- Close ceiling joints with mesh tape
- Filling = plaster walls to Q3 level. Apply and smooth the entire surface with gypsum filler, then sand the surface.
- Wallpapering = apply fleece wallpaper butt jointed on prepared surfaces (fleece wallpaper 180 g/m²)
- Painting = paint ceilings/walls twice with dispersion paint.
Wet abrasion resistance: Class 2
Opacity: Class 1
Gloss level: matte
His price = 15,000 €.
Painter B:
- Fill joints three times.
- Apply fleece on ceilings and paint twice.
- Finish corners.
- Fill walls, apply fleece, and paint twice.
His price: 13,000 €.
Possibly doing it myself = I feel confident painting myself, as I painted our current apartment. I think with Painter A I could exclude the painting, but with Painter B that is not possible.
Question:
Regarding the plaster: should I stick with cement-lime plaster?
I find clay plaster interesting, and one plasterer told me over the phone: clay plaster is more expensive, but the painter might have less work.
Regarding the painting work: is using fleece really useful (another painter said cracks will appear regardless)? Is it worth painting myself, or better to have it done professionally?
I want all walls in white, no fancy finishes.
Thanks a lot!!!
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hampshire21 Mar 2020 19:37Yes, the cracks can be easily repaired. Normally, a new building "settles" for a while, and settlement cracks can occur. By making cuts in the corners, it prevents cracks from forming elsewhere – so you have control over where they occur and can fill them once the house has settled.
We preferred a rather coarse texture, so lightly wiping over it is not an issue. Some prefer very smooth surfaces for light-reflective finishes, where even slight wiping can be more challenging.
We preferred a rather coarse texture, so lightly wiping over it is not an issue. Some prefer very smooth surfaces for light-reflective finishes, where even slight wiping can be more challenging.
I confirmed a contractor yesterday:
I’ve made some progress... in the end, it will be either gypsum plaster or gypsum-lime plaster, both from the manufacturer Kna.....
I plan to paint afterwards.
I would prefer the gypsum-lime plaster, but some contractors say that the lime content is minimal, so it hardly makes a difference.
Does anyone have experience with this or is that true?
I’ve made some progress... in the end, it will be either gypsum plaster or gypsum-lime plaster, both from the manufacturer Kna.....
I plan to paint afterwards.
I would prefer the gypsum-lime plaster, but some contractors say that the lime content is minimal, so it hardly makes a difference.
Does anyone have experience with this or is that true?
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Alessandro9 Apr 2020 11:59I cannot contribute much on the topic of gypsum plaster and gypsum-lime plaster. I would have chosen lime-cement plaster, followed by a fine plaster coat, and then painted over it.
Is a primer required for gypsum plaster and gypsum-lime plaster before painting? That can be expensive too.
Regarding ceilings, I would definitely recommend using fleece. It creates a smooth finish and looks excellent. Without fleece, you will never achieve that result and will regret saving money there for a lifetime.
Is a primer required for gypsum plaster and gypsum-lime plaster before painting? That can be expensive too.
Regarding ceilings, I would definitely recommend using fleece. It creates a smooth finish and looks excellent. Without fleece, you will never achieve that result and will regret saving money there for a lifetime.
Alessandro schrieb:
I can’t contribute anything on the topic of gypsum plaster and gypsum-lime plaster. I would have chosen cement-lime plaster, followed by a fine plaster and then painted it.
Do you need a primer for gypsum plaster and gypsum-lime plaster before painting? Because that’s also expensive.
For ceilings, I would definitely work with fleece. It becomes smooth and looks excellent. Without fleece, you’ll never get it that perfect and you’ll regret trying to save money there for a lifetime.I will stick with gypsum plaster.....
A painter said that with cement-lime plaster it would need to be puttied twice.......around €4,500 (approx. $4,800).....without knowing the exact prices, I would say that a primer would be cheaper. I want to do it myself.
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Alessandro9 Apr 2020 14:21You just need to be careful not to damage the texture or grain when applying primer and paint over it.
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