ᐅ Where should the terrace or living rooms be located if the street is on the west side?

Thank you very much for your valuable ideas. I have attached an updated diagram showing the approximate room layout regarding privacy screening as we are now imagining it. However, we are still not entirely sure...

11ant schrieb:
There are two types of 30 km/h zones: streets that only serve to access a residential area and are not useful as shortcuts or for avoiding traffic lights by commuters (and that don’t lead to supermarkets) tend to be quiet.

It is a street that only leads into a newly developed residential area. A traffic study on the traffic load for this new development is also available. It is estimated that a minimum of 196 and a maximum of 391 car trips will be made daily.

And with low fences, speedy drivers are afraid you can clearly see their license plates, so they tend to comply with noise limits.

I can understand that. However, the garden remains visible.

kbt09 schrieb:
... besides, a wide terrace on the south side fits perfectly here, also receiving sun from the west. On the west side, a narrower terrace with an evening sun bench.

The west side feels too close to the street for us, even for just a bench. We would prefer to create a second smaller terrace for the evening sun. In the updated diagram, I included an idea from us: we could make a second, somewhat smaller terrace in the southern part of the garden with space for grilling and seating. If we want the evening sun, we could simply move there. Or do you think that’s a bad idea?

We also considered planning a larger terrace on the south side with a retractable awning. It would be nice to have sun in the morning, at noon, and in the afternoon. We would only miss sun in the evening.

ypg schrieb:
Or like this. The main terrace is closer to the kitchen here. Arrows indicate possible sightlines. For the evening sundowner, people usually add an extra seating area in another corner of the garden from where they can see their house.

Well, that was your idea too — having another corner for later switching to the evening sun. We like that as well.

kaho674 schrieb:
Some people build their living room front around the corner. Luxhaus once had some designs with the Tango model. Unfortunately, most catalogs have disappeared from the internet. I still have one at home. Just mirror it, and it fits. I don’t think it’s bad at all.

I didn’t dislike that floor plan either. If you rotate your plan as you mentioned, at least no living spaces face the street, so no one can look into the house. What bothers me a bit about your plan is that the house doesn’t get any evening sun, or am I wrong? And we are definitely sun lovers…

kaho674 schrieb:
Apart from that, I would always try to keep the terrace as far as possible from the street or from where traffic noise can directly fall onto it. Just having it on the south side is quite concerning already. You would need a sizeable forest behind it to make that area cozy.

Well, that really is the question. I wrote about the traffic factor above. I just can’t say if the forecast is high or low regarding traffic noise or street usage by cars.

Grym schrieb:
Is it a through street? If it only serves access within the residential area, maybe 50 cars pass by per day???

So, 50 would approximately be the value where traffic noise wouldn’t be very disturbing? Then, according to the traffic study forecasts, we are well above that. The 30 km/h street in front of the property is not a through street — just the only access road into the development.

kaho674 schrieb:
Well, if behind it there isn’t another field with another 50 cars accessing it… Also, pedestrians looking at my coffee table would annoy me. Kids playing on the street is nice, but it’s also good to have some peace.

There can be no further plots for additional new builds here. No more free spaces for more lots. We wouldn’t like the idea of pedestrians as well. If there are any more privacy screening ideas, we’re happy to hear them…

11ant schrieb:
That is indeed a major advantage of this option: you can rotate the terrace by about "half a compass point" off the ridge line/house axis.

Sarcasm? Half a step doesn’t sound like much. Although the floor plan would not allow windows on the west side exactly as is.

infors schrieb:

Irony? Half a step doesn’t sound like much.

No, no irony. What I meant is: by rotating the floor plan by 45°, you get twice as many orientation options for the terraces compared to the usual arrangement between eaves-side and gable-side terraces, because the possible increments between alternatives are half as large.

As you yourself said:

infors schrieb:

The west side feels too close to the street for us, even for just a single bench. We would prefer to create another smaller terrace for the evening sun. [...] We could make a second, somewhat smaller terrace in the southern part of the garden with space for grilling and seating. If we want evening sun, we could just move there. [...] We also considered planning a larger terrace on the south side with an awning. It would be nice to get sun in the morning, at noon, and in the afternoon. We would only miss it in the evening.

That suggests that the optimal number of terraces could be reduced from three or two down to two or one if the orientation of the house side they adjoin could be varied by 45° instead of 90°.

Is the outward-opening front door really "serious"?

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I would place the terrace in the southwest, possibly planning a wall recess there, similar to your drawing in the southeast. In my opinion, people usually don’t sit outside in the morning (except in the height of summer). Around the terrace, for example, plant a Fargesia rufa, which looks great even in full sun and doesn’t roll its leaves. In addition, it only grows to about 1.20m (4 feet) tall.

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Sabine

I am in favor of having the forest to the west and the terrace on the south side.

11ant schrieb:
No irony intended. I meant that by rotating the floor plan by 45°, instead of having only a choice between a terrace oriented along the eaves or the gable side, you now have twice as many orientation options thanks to half-sized intermediate steps between the alternatives.

I'm not quite sure what is meant by the 45-degree rotation. I'll upload a picture. Is this the idea you have in mind? I think I don’t fully understand what you mean by rotating 45 degrees...

Curly schrieb:
I would position the terrace in the southwest, maybe planning a wall setback there, like in your drawing on the southeast side. In my opinion, people usually don’t sit outside in the morning (except in high summer). You could plant Fargesia rufa around the terrace, which looks great in full sun and does not roll its leaves. It also only grows to about 1.20m (4 feet) tall.

The idea of a wall setback on the west side is interesting. It would create a bit more distance from the street. But, from my point of view, it doesn’t make much sense to place the terrace there to catch the west sun if you then put a plant in the west that blocks the setting sun and its rays. Then we wouldn’t benefit from the west sun at all. Or am I missing something?

The latter sight really gives me the creeps.

But whether the orientation is straight or angled: you will also get the morning sun from the east when building in the south, and since people usually spend more time in the evening than early in the morning watching the sunrise, I would place the recess on the west side and generally focus more attention there.

However, before you get into the details: the floor plan needs to be revised anyway – you have no storage or utility space on the ground floor, so there’s nowhere for beverage crates, empty bottles, tools, cleaning supplies, mop buckets, and vacuum cleaners. You probably haven’t planned any compensation upstairs either?
Anyway: the utility room is too small, the bathroom too large... but those can be swapped easily.
The door in the carport won’t work with a car, and you should also think about where you will actually enjoy the sunlight inside the house.