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Baupurist3 Jan 2022 14:34Hello everyone,
we are planning to install three lift-and-slide doors in our existing property soon (2 x 2.4 meters (7 ft 10 in) and 1 x 5.2 meters (17 ft 1 in)).
The lift-and-slide doors should have as slim a design as possible. Are there significant differences in the profiles depending on the manufacturer? For example, I saw in a video from Schüco that the visible width of the locking area can be reduced.
How does aluminum compare to uPVC (plastic) in terms of achieving a slim appearance? Are the profiles the same size?
Best regards,
Dennis
we are planning to install three lift-and-slide doors in our existing property soon (2 x 2.4 meters (7 ft 10 in) and 1 x 5.2 meters (17 ft 1 in)).
The lift-and-slide doors should have as slim a design as possible. Are there significant differences in the profiles depending on the manufacturer? For example, I saw in a video from Schüco that the visible width of the locking area can be reduced.
How does aluminum compare to uPVC (plastic) in terms of achieving a slim appearance? Are the profiles the same size?
Best regards,
Dennis
Perhaps you should try using the forum search function here and read around a bit.
What is currently installed there? (Photos would be helpful.) 2.4 m (7 feet 10 inches) is already quite narrow. Have you considered folding sliding doors?
Profiles do differ from one manufacturer to another—especially when it comes to triple-glazed units. However, there are many brands operated under the same licensor. Aluminum itself is lighter, but the frame’s proportion of the overall weight reduces this advantage. Lift-and-slide doors are high-stress components, so I would generally advise against uPVC. Slenderness is your least concern with this type of building element.
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Baupurist schrieb:
We plan to install three lift-and-slide doors soon in our existing property (2 x 2.4 m (7 feet 10 inches) and 1 x 5.2 m (17 feet 1 inch)).
What is currently installed there? (Photos would be helpful.) 2.4 m (7 feet 10 inches) is already quite narrow. Have you considered folding sliding doors?
Baupurist schrieb:
Are there significant differences between manufacturers regarding the profiles? [...] How does aluminum compare to uPVC in terms of slender appearance? Are the profiles the same size?
Profiles do differ from one manufacturer to another—especially when it comes to triple-glazed units. However, there are many brands operated under the same licensor. Aluminum itself is lighter, but the frame’s proportion of the overall weight reduces this advantage. Lift-and-slide doors are high-stress components, so I would generally advise against uPVC. Slenderness is your least concern with this type of building element.
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Baupurist3 Jan 2022 18:13Hello,
thanks for the information. I’ve already browsed through several pages but haven’t found anything suitable yet. However, I won’t give up ;-)
Folding sliding doors are out for us. We don’t really like them, and they would also take up space in the room. Unfortunately, they don’t fit our situation.
I don’t think 2.4 m (7.9 ft) is too narrow. I know two people in my circle with sliding lift-and-slide doors measuring 2.3 m and 2.4 m (7.5 ft and 7.9 ft), and that works perfectly fine for our standards.
My main concern was the mentioned slenderness. That’s why I didn’t provide more detailed information about the current situation. If nothing can be done in that regard, I can discard one more criterion. That’s also fine.
I’ll just use the search function you described once again to get more detailed information.
Still, thank you very much!
Regards
Dennis
thanks for the information. I’ve already browsed through several pages but haven’t found anything suitable yet. However, I won’t give up ;-)
Folding sliding doors are out for us. We don’t really like them, and they would also take up space in the room. Unfortunately, they don’t fit our situation.
I don’t think 2.4 m (7.9 ft) is too narrow. I know two people in my circle with sliding lift-and-slide doors measuring 2.3 m and 2.4 m (7.5 ft and 7.9 ft), and that works perfectly fine for our standards.
My main concern was the mentioned slenderness. That’s why I didn’t provide more detailed information about the current situation. If nothing can be done in that regard, I can discard one more criterion. That’s also fine.
I’ll just use the search function you described once again to get more detailed information.
Still, thank you very much!
Regards
Dennis
Hello,
I wouldn’t generally advise against using uPVC as a material for lift-and-slide doors. It really depends on the specific circumstances, such as color, type of use, size, and so on.
The point raised by 11ant regarding the narrow width is quite relevant, as hardware manufacturers typically specify a maximum width-to-height ratio of 1:2.5. Beyond this ratio, warranties are often voided because the sliding panel may start to "jerk" during operation. Due to their design and structural stability, lift-and-slide doors are well suited for large sliding elements. For a "smaller" door, which could also be operated with a different opening mechanism, the effort involved can be disproportionately high.
There are variants in both uPVC and aluminum systems, often referred to as "Lux" or "Panorama," where a fixed panel is usually omitted and the glass is installed directly into the frame. This results in a more delicate appearance but leads to different glass thicknesses between the sliding panel and the side element.
I wouldn’t generally advise against using uPVC as a material for lift-and-slide doors. It really depends on the specific circumstances, such as color, type of use, size, and so on.
The point raised by 11ant regarding the narrow width is quite relevant, as hardware manufacturers typically specify a maximum width-to-height ratio of 1:2.5. Beyond this ratio, warranties are often voided because the sliding panel may start to "jerk" during operation. Due to their design and structural stability, lift-and-slide doors are well suited for large sliding elements. For a "smaller" door, which could also be operated with a different opening mechanism, the effort involved can be disproportionately high.
There are variants in both uPVC and aluminum systems, often referred to as "Lux" or "Panorama," where a fixed panel is usually omitted and the glass is installed directly into the frame. This results in a more delicate appearance but leads to different glass thicknesses between the sliding panel and the side element.
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