ᐅ Water Softener and Filter for an 80 sqm Condominium – Device Purchase Decision
Created on: 28 Feb 2016 11:59
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snackysHello everyone,
I am currently planning to purchase a water softener system and an additional filter.
Ideally, this should happen as soon as next week! 🙂
It is a two-family house, currently there is no filter, pressure reducer, or softener installed.
Our condominium is about 80sqm (860 sq ft) in size, we have our own boiler, which means access to both cold and hot water pipes as well as underfloor heating pipes.
There is a surface-mounted siphon installed.
A power outlet for electricity is also available.
There are two of us living here.
According to the water utility, the water hardness is between 13-15° dH (7.5-8.3 grains per gallon), although it was recently measured at 17° dH (9.5 gpg).
It is mixed water from a water utility and a reservoir.
(Is it therefore necessary to have a device that adjusts to varying hardness levels?)
As shown in the photo, copper piping runs through the house up to my heating room in the attic.
From there, plastic pipes lead into my apartment.
There is a water meter for the other owner in the basement.
I have my own small cold water meter.
Since the lower-level owner does not want a filter or softener, I am looking for a smaller/compact softener and a suitable filter.
Products like Judo or Grünbeck are completely too large for our needs.
According to the plumber, the water pressure in our house is apparently above 3 bar (43.5 psi), so it might be too high.
However, the water pressure in our rain shower is still quite low. (How could the pressure in the rain shower be increased? The pressure at the faucet is sufficient.)
Is a pressure reducer necessary?
It is important to me that the water is treated as cost-effectively as possible. This also means keeping maintenance and operating costs as low as possible.
The main priority is definitely protecting appliances such as the washing machine, dishwasher, coffee machine, steam oven, and steam functions of the regular oven.
It would also be great to significantly reduce lime scale deposits, so we don’t have to clean sinks and showers every day, which would also make my wife happy!
What measures would you recommend for our situation?
And what smaller-sized devices are good options?
Thank you very much for your help! 🙂
I am currently planning to purchase a water softener system and an additional filter.
Ideally, this should happen as soon as next week! 🙂
It is a two-family house, currently there is no filter, pressure reducer, or softener installed.
Our condominium is about 80sqm (860 sq ft) in size, we have our own boiler, which means access to both cold and hot water pipes as well as underfloor heating pipes.
There is a surface-mounted siphon installed.
A power outlet for electricity is also available.
There are two of us living here.
According to the water utility, the water hardness is between 13-15° dH (7.5-8.3 grains per gallon), although it was recently measured at 17° dH (9.5 gpg).
It is mixed water from a water utility and a reservoir.
(Is it therefore necessary to have a device that adjusts to varying hardness levels?)
As shown in the photo, copper piping runs through the house up to my heating room in the attic.
From there, plastic pipes lead into my apartment.
There is a water meter for the other owner in the basement.
I have my own small cold water meter.
Since the lower-level owner does not want a filter or softener, I am looking for a smaller/compact softener and a suitable filter.
Products like Judo or Grünbeck are completely too large for our needs.
According to the plumber, the water pressure in our house is apparently above 3 bar (43.5 psi), so it might be too high.
However, the water pressure in our rain shower is still quite low. (How could the pressure in the rain shower be increased? The pressure at the faucet is sufficient.)
Is a pressure reducer necessary?
It is important to me that the water is treated as cost-effectively as possible. This also means keeping maintenance and operating costs as low as possible.
The main priority is definitely protecting appliances such as the washing machine, dishwasher, coffee machine, steam oven, and steam functions of the regular oven.
It would also be great to significantly reduce lime scale deposits, so we don’t have to clean sinks and showers every day, which would also make my wife happy!
What measures would you recommend for our situation?
And what smaller-sized devices are good options?
Thank you very much for your help! 🙂
Hello
Take a look at Judo's i-Balance model. It should meet your requirements.
Besides the complicated installation, I would hesitate to have a second-year trainee handle it...,
but I also noticed:
Some insulated piping – circulation? – risk of contamination
No safety assembly on the storage tank
Olli
Take a look at Judo's i-Balance model. It should meet your requirements.
Besides the complicated installation, I would hesitate to have a second-year trainee handle it...,
but I also noticed:
Some insulated piping – circulation? – risk of contamination
No safety assembly on the storage tank
Olli
Good evening!
Thank you for your reply.
The somewhat unusual installation is due to the fact that until about three weeks ago, one boiler was supplying hot water for both parties. This means the boiler upstairs produced hot water as well as the supply and return flow for the underfloor heating for the neighbors downstairs.
In pictures 1 and 2, you can see how it was before, with separate meters and heat meters.
Now that each party has their own boiler, the supply and return pipes for the underfloor heating running downstairs (to the lower party) have been sealed off. So there are end plugs installed both upstairs and downstairs. The same applies to the hot water lines, since the neighbors downstairs have their own boiler now (see photos; theirs has been moved downstairs).
Unfortunately, we do not have a circulation line.
Pressure relief valve?
What is it needed for? Or could it be this red valve shown in the last picture?
Isn’t the i-Balance system somewhat oversized as well?
And isn’t there a device that is smaller in dimension?
Thanks for your help!
PS:
The boiler is a CGW-2-14/100L.
Thank you for your reply.
The somewhat unusual installation is due to the fact that until about three weeks ago, one boiler was supplying hot water for both parties. This means the boiler upstairs produced hot water as well as the supply and return flow for the underfloor heating for the neighbors downstairs.
In pictures 1 and 2, you can see how it was before, with separate meters and heat meters.
Now that each party has their own boiler, the supply and return pipes for the underfloor heating running downstairs (to the lower party) have been sealed off. So there are end plugs installed both upstairs and downstairs. The same applies to the hot water lines, since the neighbors downstairs have their own boiler now (see photos; theirs has been moved downstairs).
Unfortunately, we do not have a circulation line.
Pressure relief valve?
What is it needed for? Or could it be this red valve shown in the last picture?
Isn’t the i-Balance system somewhat oversized as well?
And isn’t there a device that is smaller in dimension?
Thanks for your help!
PS:
The boiler is a CGW-2-14/100L.
Hello
This is the safety valve for the heating system. A discharge pipe should also be directed to the sewer system here.
A similar valve, including a shut-off valve, check valve, and drain pipe for leak water, should also be installed on the supply line to the storage tank.
Olli
This is the safety valve for the heating system. A discharge pipe should also be directed to the sewer system here.
A similar valve, including a shut-off valve, check valve, and drain pipe for leak water, should also be installed on the supply line to the storage tank.
Olli
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