Hello everyone,
I’m new here and planning to remodel my bathroom a bit, so I have a question for the specialists.
Although I’m not a plumber, I have done almost all kinds of handyman work around the house.
I appreciate any help and advice.
Plan: A vanity cabinet with a solid wood countertop and a vessel sink in a bowl shape.
Problem: For a vessel sink, I need a “tall” faucet, and I absolutely want a two-handle faucet!
Question: I haven’t found any tall two-handle faucets. Does anyone have a tip, a source, or another good idea on how to use a “standard” faucet, e.g. a Hansgrohe Logis, together with a vessel sink?
Workaround: Use a sink with a deck hole for “standard” faucets.
Why a two-handle faucet?
A single-lever mixer causes unnecessarily high hot water consumption and greatly increases energy waste.
At a washbasin primarily used for hand and face washing, cold water is needed and used in 95% of cases, since the first liters coming out are cold anyway.
By the time warm water arrives, you’re already done. Unfortunately, almost all single-lever mixers remain in the center position, mixing in (cold) hot water unnecessarily and without effect.
Thanks in advance for all the information, and wishing you all the best—stay healthy.
joerg2712
I’m new here and planning to remodel my bathroom a bit, so I have a question for the specialists.
Although I’m not a plumber, I have done almost all kinds of handyman work around the house.
I appreciate any help and advice.
Plan: A vanity cabinet with a solid wood countertop and a vessel sink in a bowl shape.
Problem: For a vessel sink, I need a “tall” faucet, and I absolutely want a two-handle faucet!
Question: I haven’t found any tall two-handle faucets. Does anyone have a tip, a source, or another good idea on how to use a “standard” faucet, e.g. a Hansgrohe Logis, together with a vessel sink?
Workaround: Use a sink with a deck hole for “standard” faucets.
Why a two-handle faucet?
A single-lever mixer causes unnecessarily high hot water consumption and greatly increases energy waste.
At a washbasin primarily used for hand and face washing, cold water is needed and used in 95% of cases, since the first liters coming out are cold anyway.
By the time warm water arrives, you’re already done. Unfortunately, almost all single-lever mixers remain in the center position, mixing in (cold) hot water unnecessarily and without effect.
Thanks in advance for all the information, and wishing you all the best—stay healthy.
joerg2712
joerg2712 schrieb:
Kati, we don’t need to open that discussion. You’re probably right, but this is more about my general attitude toward energy consumption and newly installed solutions. Still, thanks.
I know, my post wasn’t entirely serious and a bit provocative. It just tends to encourage measures that, all things considered—both mathematically and realistically—hardly make a difference, allowing people to pat themselves on the back environmentally and say, "I did something." If we really want to become more sustainable and create positive change, we all need to address the bigger factors, which often inevitably mean sacrificing some comfort. Not driving to work anymore, only buying locally produced fruits and goods, avoiding stores like Tedi, Action, and Kik because their products are cheap but environmentally costly due to shipping, pushing for a ban on New Year’s fireworks… there are so many major challenges in society that it really bothers me when I read about someone going through the hassle of adjusting two faucets in everyday life just for such a relatively minor issue.
I’m in no way claiming to be a saint who wastes nothing. But I always think that if someone wants to make a difference, they can come up with something better than saving half a liter of hot water.
J
joerg27122 Nov 2020 14:22pagoni2020 schrieb:
Persuasion is ALWAYS better, especially here with arguments... Hello pagoni2020,
Of course, the statement wasn’t entirely “technically accurate.” It was more meant to casually point out the general fact that these very convenient single-handle mixers are almost always used in the middle position. If that wasn’t an issue, Hansgrohe wouldn’t highlight exactly this with Coolstart.
By the way, the often-mentioned mixing issues with two-handle faucets (water consumption, risk of scalding, etc.) are something neither of us really see. Perhaps simply because we grew up with conventional taps.
We don’t mix water for minutes on end, and we don’t just open the hot water and then get surprised when it suddenly gets hot. For others, that might seem old-fashioned and uncool.
So this is really just an individual, personal opinion, and I’m looking for a technical solution that is satisfactory for US (my wife feels exactly the same, she just doesn’t pay much attention to it day to day!). You gave me a very good tip with Coolstart.
Thanks again, all good!
Jörg
kati1337 schrieb:
because their goods are cheap but shipped here at a high environmental costAn incredibly poor example. A freight barge can easily carry 300,000 tons (approximately 330,000 short tons) of cargo. Transporting goods this way is one of the most environmentally efficient methods possible. A single kiwi fruit transported from New Zealand to Germany by sea generates less CO2 emissions than the emissions from driving that same fruit from the supermarket to your home by car. This is a clear scale effect.N
nordanney2 Nov 2020 14:30joerg2712 schrieb:
It should rather
loosely point out the general fact that these very comfortable single-lever mixers
are almost always used in the middle position. Do they really? I don’t think so. Honestly, if someone can’t handle a lever properly to get only cold water, they should have their hot water supply disconnected.
That would be my suggestion. Where there is no hot water supply, none can be used.
J
joerg27122 Nov 2020 14:33kati1337 schrieb:
I know, my post wasn’t entirely serious / a bit teasing.
... that someone would want to deal with the hassle of two mixers in everyday life... Hi Kati,
no worries, I want and have wanted advice, and I’m happy to face critical comments and opinions.
I explained my motivation because I’m looking for tips from you, not statements like
“use single-lever mixers, all manufacturers offer them in tall versions.”
Honestly, for that I wouldn’t need a forum.
This remains a personal, individual wish of ours, and over the past 60 years we’ve learned that sometimes you just have to follow your own preferences, even if others don’t understand them. Even if it’s just a faucet or a washbasin.
Best regards and thanks again for all the well-intended advice
Jörg
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