Hi!
We are considering a Villeroy & Boch Squaro Edge 12 Combipool Invisible. Until now, I have always ruled out whirlpools because I find the metallic jet design terrible for a bathtub. However, I find this Invisible technology from Villeroy & Boch very clever, and so I can now imagine having a tub like this.
Is there anyone here with experience using one of these bathtubs? It is quite expensive, and trying it out before buying is probably not possible.
We are considering a Villeroy & Boch Squaro Edge 12 Combipool Invisible. Until now, I have always ruled out whirlpools because I find the metallic jet design terrible for a bathtub. However, I find this Invisible technology from Villeroy & Boch very clever, and so I can now imagine having a tub like this.
Is there anyone here with experience using one of these bathtubs? It is quite expensive, and trying it out before buying is probably not possible.
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R.Hotzenplotz29 Oct 2017 12:55The installer has sent the quote. For a Combipool Invisible, I would pay an additional €7,683 (about $8,400) compared to the basic standard bathtub. This price includes the integrated water inlet, a built-in UP (in-wall) control unit, a Grohe Concetto pre-assembled set, a Fix-it wall connection elbow, a shower hose, and a hand shower. It also mentions "2 additional water connections." I understand that a standard bathtub according to the building specification might not include a shower and therefore only has one water connection as standard, but what on earth are the two extra connections for?
This also has nothing to do with the whirlpool function because even the alternative standard rectangular bathtub Kaldewei Conoduo 190x90cm (75x35 inches) is listed with two extra water connections — offered at a bargain price of €3,898.70 (about $4,270) (at Reuter €1,058). The difference in price is absolutely insane.
According to the floor plan, the bathtub is planned for the area where the two washbasins are currently drawn. So we are still considering whether to go with the whirlpool, which would have to be tiled in, or a freestanding tub or a tub with a pre-wall installation system like the Duravit Cape Cod, which looks freestanding from the side.
The Conoduo is also great though. A steel enamel bathtub.
This also has nothing to do with the whirlpool function because even the alternative standard rectangular bathtub Kaldewei Conoduo 190x90cm (75x35 inches) is listed with two extra water connections — offered at a bargain price of €3,898.70 (about $4,270) (at Reuter €1,058). The difference in price is absolutely insane.
According to the floor plan, the bathtub is planned for the area where the two washbasins are currently drawn. So we are still considering whether to go with the whirlpool, which would have to be tiled in, or a freestanding tub or a tub with a pre-wall installation system like the Duravit Cape Cod, which looks freestanding from the side.
The Conoduo is also great though. A steel enamel bathtub.
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R.Hotzenplotz31 Oct 2017 17:37It’s a pity that there are no user reviews available for this type of combined pool. Test bathing is also not possible anymore, since it is no longer allowed in the showroom in Mettlach.
Just based on the tub itself, we would otherwise lean towards the steel enamel tub Kaldewei Conodui. But the whirlpool feature is very appealing... yet it feels like buying a pig in a poke. At Reuter, he said only one out of 200 customers asks about it... even fewer actually buy it.
Just based on the tub itself, we would otherwise lean towards the steel enamel tub Kaldewei Conodui. But the whirlpool feature is very appealing... yet it feels like buying a pig in a poke. At Reuter, he said only one out of 200 customers asks about it... even fewer actually buy it.
At €7,600, you really have to think it over. An outdoor hot tub costs around €10,000 plus the substructure. Of course, that’s a bit more money, but then you have something proper, usable with friends, and so on.
A nice drink in the outdoor hot tub in winter is just amazing.
A nice drink in the outdoor hot tub in winter is just amazing.
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R.Hotzenplotz31 Oct 2017 17:44You’ll laugh, Alex. Exactly 10 seconds before I clicked on your post, the same idea crossed my mind... an outdoor hot tub!
However, I still need to clarify what the €7,600 includes for installation, additional materials, and any possible extra cost during the rough-in phase, and what is simply well above the Reuter price, which is around €4,460. I already have an installation partner. The other things in the bathroom are also quite expensive. Overall, going through the general contractor’s installer would add up to just over €20,000 in extra costs.
However, I still need to clarify what the €7,600 includes for installation, additional materials, and any possible extra cost during the rough-in phase, and what is simply well above the Reuter price, which is around €4,460. I already have an installation partner. The other things in the bathroom are also quite expensive. Overall, going through the general contractor’s installer would add up to just over €20,000 in extra costs.
It’s incredible how expensive your general contractor is.
I have a Villeroy & Boch Loop and Friends Square Combi Pool Comfort installed in my bathroom. Unfortunately, I realized too late that the Special Invisible version costs only €600 (about $660) more, but oh well.
I haven’t used it yet, as moving in is still some time away.
Considering that I spent about €23,000 (around $25,400) managing both my bathrooms myself, including complete Villeroy & Boch fixtures, Italian tiles, and other accessories—of which €10,000 (about $11,000) was for appliances and furniture—I’m very glad I never hired a bathroom studio.
I have a Villeroy & Boch Loop and Friends Square Combi Pool Comfort installed in my bathroom. Unfortunately, I realized too late that the Special Invisible version costs only €600 (about $660) more, but oh well.
I haven’t used it yet, as moving in is still some time away.
Considering that I spent about €23,000 (around $25,400) managing both my bathrooms myself, including complete Villeroy & Boch fixtures, Italian tiles, and other accessories—of which €10,000 (about $11,000) was for appliances and furniture—I’m very glad I never hired a bathroom studio.
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R.Hotzenplotz5 Nov 2017 22:54Bullz47 schrieb:
Unbelievable how expensive your main contractor is.It looks like we will probably outsource at least some parts of the sanitary ware. As mentioned, we have someone who also installs materials from other suppliers.
However, we are not yet sure if we will go for the whirlpool. Perhaps a Kaldewei Conoduo steel enamel tub would be a nice option as well. We’ll see.
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