ᐅ Using an empty, privately owned building plot without permission.

It only becomes problematic when, for whatever reason, clutter is left in the way and is not cleared in time. For example, if the neighbor was stingy and the builder from elsewhere isn’t coming for the next two weeks. Or if an inspection shaft breaks and no one wants to take responsibility. In such cases, even photos of license plates don’t help. Or if a truck leaks oil.

For minor underground work, no permission is needed, but for larger operations, I find it unreasonable. For example, placing a crane on someone else’s property without asking.

I think it would be reasonable to require the neighbor to fence off your shafts to prevent damage.

OWLer schrieb:

But when our neighbors started, none of the neighbors knew each other yet. The contractor just went ahead and did it. Often, everything was refreshingly straightforward and low-bureaucracy on the site. I wish work were sometimes like that too.

I’m happy about that! Refreshingly simple! In general, this helps people get to know each other earlier, which is important since you have to deal with each other later anyway. The neighbors aren’t to blame here; it’s the contractor!
I can only speak for myself: On my construction sites, I always ask beforehand! If there are curbs, shafts, etc., I take photos beforehand. For me, this is just part of good communication.
I would occasionally talk to the site manager about this so that it “clicks” for future situations as well.

My brother spoke with the site foreman, who contacted the construction manager, and then the construction manager called my brother. At first, my brother gave the construction manager a severe scolding for using the property without permission.

The construction manager, who is apparently also the client and almost our neighbor, then apologized properly. The foreman did the same. Now everyone is happy because the team has been granted permission (each time following a quick consultation) to, for example, park a truck with roof tiles on the site next week. All waste will be disposed of, and if anything breaks, it will, of course, be repaired.

They are now keeping a very close eye on the property (to avoid any problems later). They kindly informed us today that waste has been dumped on our site by another crew from a construction site diagonally across the street (plasterers), including cement residues.

They have been given a deadline until tomorrow to clean this up properly (when addressed on site today, they just said, "that's how we always do it").

Climbee schrieb:

I would talk to the future neighbor and say that it basically doesn't bother you, as long as it doesn't cause any damage to you and any traces left behind are cleaned up.

Climbee schrieb:

I don’t mind it in principle either, but I would expect them to ask beforehand if it’s okay.

I would handle it the same way -> Just introduce yourself and clarify that it’s fine as long as everything is left in good condition, and maybe mention when your own work will start...

Still, anyone can contact the local authority or whoever previously owned the properties to ask if they can provide the neighbor’s contact details, or leave their own contact information to get in touch and ask. In my opinion, “We don’t know each other yet” is not a valid excuse.

Good luck

superzapp schrieb:

someone from another construction site diagonally across (plasterer) disposed of waste at our site (cement leftovers, etc.) [...] "we always do it like this"

... until they happen to build somewhere where someone "always does it like this" and gives them a hard time for that saying

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Our neighbors across the street have turned their two building plots into an English-style lawn... the green looks better than my rolled turf... if anyone steps on it, they go crazy, I’m telling you... not even the children are allowed to play on it.