ᐅ Upper floor lintel and ring beam

Created on: 15 Sep 2016 11:47
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Curly
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Curly
15 Sep 2016 11:47
Hello,

we are planning a clear structural height of 2.75m (9 feet) for the upper floor. Our builder mentioned that with this height, the windows might not be very tall (he hasn’t given exact details yet), since the window lintel and ring beam (for the town villa) still need to be taken into account. Do you know how much space is needed from the top edge of the window to the ceiling? We want to calculate ourselves whether the structural height will be sufficient.

Best regards
Sabine
AOLNCM15 Sep 2016 12:17
A ring beam is already cast in concrete. Unless you have windows as wide as three meters (approximately 10 feet) on the upper floor, additional reinforcement (rebar cage) in the U-shaped block (25 cm (10 inches) high) above the window should usually be sufficient. To be sure, consult your architect or structural engineer, who will determine the number, placement, and diameter of the reinforcing bars.

Since a ring beam is planned, a wood joist ceiling will likely be installed, meaning the distance from the top of the window to the ceiling equals a roller shutter box of 20 / 25 / 30 cm (approximately 8 / 10 / 12 inches) high plus a 25 cm (10 inches) ring beam minus just under 5 cm (2 inches) for battens and drywall.
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Bauexperte
15 Sep 2016 12:17
Hello Sabine,
Curly schrieb:

We are planning a clear structural height of 2.75 m (9 ft) on the upper floor. Our builder said that with this height, the windows won’t be very tall (he hasn’t provided more details yet) because the window lintel and ring beam (townhouse style) must still be considered. Do you know how much space we need for this, meaning from the top edge of the window to the ceiling? We wanted to calculate ourselves whether the structural height will be enough.

Normally, you need 16 to 30 cm (6 to 12 inches) — depending on the size of the roller shutter box and window — for the shutter box plus lintel (11.5 to 17.5 cm / 4.5 to 7 inches, depending on reinforcement requirements). A clear structural height of 2.75 m (9 ft) is not very high, so I understand the builder’s concern.

Regards, Bauexperte
AOLNCM15 Sep 2016 12:23
And beyond a certain roof overhang and roof pitch, "too tall" windows make little sense.
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Curly
15 Sep 2016 17:50
We have a required eave height of 6.50 m (21 ft 4 in) to the top edge of the roof according to the development plan. Therefore, we are planning the ground floor with a raw construction height of 2.875 m (9 ft 5 in) and the upper floor only 2.75 m (9 ft). Otherwise, we probably wouldn’t have any option other than low windows on the upper floor, right?

Best regards
Sabine
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Legurit
15 Sep 2016 17:54
Where exactly is the low point!? 2.75 meters (9 feet) rough construction corresponds to 2.60 meters (8 feet 6 inches) at the finished floor level.