ᐅ Upgrading Roller Shutter Controls Later and Centralized vs. Decentralized Systems
Created on: 14 May 2017 11:19
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Sonnengarten
Hello everyone,
We are currently planning the roller shutter control system for our semi-detached house.
For each roller shutter, we have an electric motor as well as a simple control switch from Gira, which allows you to manually tap to move the roller shutter up and down.
This is not very practical for everyday use, so we wanted to have at least a programmable timer for each roller shutter so that they automatically move up and down.
The electrician also recommended a central control system for all the roller shutters with a timer function, allowing all roller shutters in the house to be operated or adjusted at once with a single control. This naturally offers greater convenience and, according to him, would not be much more expensive than our initial idea, without a concrete quote yet.
We do not have an exact price, but from what we have seen, the electrician passes on the Gira catalogue price 1:1 to the customer. That would be the "Gira Electronic Blind Control 2" at 238 Euro minus the standard discount of 100 Euro, which amounts to about 138 Euro per roller shutter, plus an additional cost for the central control option. I suspect this will get quite expensive overall.
For the option we have in mind, I noticed that a larger online retailer already sells the "Gira Electronic Blind Control 2" add-on for 85 Euro. Additionally, the simple control switch could potentially be resold if the new add-on fits on the base of the simple switch.
Does anyone have experience with whether it is really this "easy" to replace just the control unit later with Gira products, so that you do not have to rely on such expensive offers? Or is much more required than simply exchanging the operating element?
As far as I understand, the roller shutter motor is connected rather simply to the control unit, so it should be possible to replace and modify everything at the switch later, except for the central control system, right?
Or would you generally recommend installing a central control system for all roller shutters from the start and go for the complete package?
Many thanks in advance for all feedback!
We are currently planning the roller shutter control system for our semi-detached house.
For each roller shutter, we have an electric motor as well as a simple control switch from Gira, which allows you to manually tap to move the roller shutter up and down.
This is not very practical for everyday use, so we wanted to have at least a programmable timer for each roller shutter so that they automatically move up and down.
The electrician also recommended a central control system for all the roller shutters with a timer function, allowing all roller shutters in the house to be operated or adjusted at once with a single control. This naturally offers greater convenience and, according to him, would not be much more expensive than our initial idea, without a concrete quote yet.
We do not have an exact price, but from what we have seen, the electrician passes on the Gira catalogue price 1:1 to the customer. That would be the "Gira Electronic Blind Control 2" at 238 Euro minus the standard discount of 100 Euro, which amounts to about 138 Euro per roller shutter, plus an additional cost for the central control option. I suspect this will get quite expensive overall.
For the option we have in mind, I noticed that a larger online retailer already sells the "Gira Electronic Blind Control 2" add-on for 85 Euro. Additionally, the simple control switch could potentially be resold if the new add-on fits on the base of the simple switch.
Does anyone have experience with whether it is really this "easy" to replace just the control unit later with Gira products, so that you do not have to rely on such expensive offers? Or is much more required than simply exchanging the operating element?
As far as I understand, the roller shutter motor is connected rather simply to the control unit, so it should be possible to replace and modify everything at the switch later, except for the central control system, right?
Or would you generally recommend installing a central control system for all roller shutters from the start and go for the complete package?
Many thanks in advance for all feedback!
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Caspar202014 May 2017 15:46We have roller shutter switches nearby most of the time. In the living room, there is a tablet mounted on the wall in a central location because there are four roller shutters there.
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Steffen8015 May 2017 07:4077.willo schrieb:
Take a look at homematic. It costs about 50 euros per roller shutter and can be easily installed step by step by yourself, and it is much more flexible.That's true. Homematic is really good as a DIY solution. Unfortunately, it's not as cheap anymore, and you have to like wireless systems.
Hello,
we only replaced the standard up-down switches ourselves later on with timer switches.
This was quick, simple, and relatively inexpensive (40€/switch), as we chose timer switches from a more affordable supplier rather than the ones from our original switch range (Busch-Jaeger Reflex SI), which could easily be integrated into the existing frames.
We decided against the timer switches from the original manufacturer because they cost three times as much, and we didn’t see any significant advantage—except, of course, that they match the rest of the switches perfectly in appearance. Our timer switches even have more features, such as a sunlight sensor that lowers the blinds when strong sunlight hits the windows. Very practical in summer to prevent the house from heating up too much.
By the way, we don’t have and don’t miss a central control system since installing the timer switches. We hardly ever operate the blinds manually anymore and control them using the astro function (based on sunset time). It’s so simple that a central switch is really not necessary.
We only operate the blinds manually now if the sun ever interferes while watching TV.
we only replaced the standard up-down switches ourselves later on with timer switches.
This was quick, simple, and relatively inexpensive (40€/switch), as we chose timer switches from a more affordable supplier rather than the ones from our original switch range (Busch-Jaeger Reflex SI), which could easily be integrated into the existing frames.
We decided against the timer switches from the original manufacturer because they cost three times as much, and we didn’t see any significant advantage—except, of course, that they match the rest of the switches perfectly in appearance. Our timer switches even have more features, such as a sunlight sensor that lowers the blinds when strong sunlight hits the windows. Very practical in summer to prevent the house from heating up too much.
By the way, we don’t have and don’t miss a central control system since installing the timer switches. We hardly ever operate the blinds manually anymore and control them using the astro function (based on sunset time). It’s so simple that a central switch is really not necessary.
We only operate the blinds manually now if the sun ever interferes while watching TV.
If I understand you correctly, we are doing exactly that:
Each roller shutter has its own motor and a separate toggle switch at the door.
However, the control cables from the switches do not go directly to the roller shutter.
Instead, all control cables from the switches throughout the house run down to the central utility room.
From this central point, a cable goes to each roller shutter in the house.
In this central location, we install one programmable switch (probably from Rademacher, see the other current thread). This switch uses an astro function to determine when to raise and lower the shutters and sends the signal to all roller shutters in the house. The switches have no influence at that moment.
Yes, this requires more cabling, but conduit already exists from the power source to all light switches in the house, so the conduit is already there. Only additional wires need to be pulled through, so the extra effort is minimal.
The additional cost for the one switch is about €80 (approximately $85) as a one-time expense.
The disadvantage is that you cannot control each roller shutter individually by timer, but I figure the sun will set at roughly the same time for all shutters. And if someone does not want to use it in a bedroom, they can simply disconnect the central wire.
This was all the suggestion from our electrician. I cannot specify any additional costs here.
Each roller shutter has its own motor and a separate toggle switch at the door.
However, the control cables from the switches do not go directly to the roller shutter.
Instead, all control cables from the switches throughout the house run down to the central utility room.
From this central point, a cable goes to each roller shutter in the house.
In this central location, we install one programmable switch (probably from Rademacher, see the other current thread). This switch uses an astro function to determine when to raise and lower the shutters and sends the signal to all roller shutters in the house. The switches have no influence at that moment.
Yes, this requires more cabling, but conduit already exists from the power source to all light switches in the house, so the conduit is already there. Only additional wires need to be pulled through, so the extra effort is minimal.
The additional cost for the one switch is about €80 (approximately $85) as a one-time expense.
The disadvantage is that you cannot control each roller shutter individually by timer, but I figure the sun will set at roughly the same time for all shutters. And if someone does not want to use it in a bedroom, they can simply disconnect the central wire.
This was all the suggestion from our electrician. I cannot specify any additional costs here.
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