ᐅ Underfloor heating with an air-to-water heat pump. House gets too warm when the sun is shining.

Created on: 4 Dec 2019 14:18
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chewbacca123
Hello everyone,

I have a general question.

We moved into our new build four months ago. The living area on the ground floor has three large floor-to-ceiling windows facing south. We have underfloor heating and an air-to-water heat pump.
It provides a really comfortable temperature inside the house, but we have a problem – whenever the sun is shining in winter, even if it’s -2°C (28°F) outside, the temperature suddenly rises to 24°C (75°F) in the living room. It gets uncomfortably warm in here, and the underfloor heating can’t be turned down quickly.
Should we assume that the large floor-to-ceiling windows are responsible for the heat gain? A photo of the south-facing side of the house is attached.
What would you do – always lower all the blinds as soon as sunlight is forecast? That seems quite annoying...
We have motorized blinds controlled by Somfy. Would you consider buying a sensor that automatically lowers the blinds at a certain temperature?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Neues zweistöckiges Haus auf Baustelle mit weißer Blockfassade, pinker Dämmung und großen Fenstern
chewbacca1236 Dec 2019 15:09
Bookstar schrieb:

Is this an older building, or why is the VLT so high? Everything is set wrong here.
It’s a new build; we only moved in four months ago. I don’t think they adjusted anything at all, oh man… Wait, I’ll go back to the system and run some analyses, if I’m able to.
chewbacca1236 Dec 2019 15:15
guckuck2 schrieb:

The commissioning is missing. It looks like the factory settings.

Do you have a picture of the current temperatures?
Hey, please see the attached

Thermostat display: Info + setting, automatic mode, temperature +0.0°C (32°F), target 49.0°C (120°F)


Display of a heating controller with heating curve and temperature values (40°C/ -20°C (4°F)/ 20°C (68°F))


Temperature menu with desired value +49.0°C (120°F) and heat pump coverage +49.0°C (120°F); arrow, checkmark, and X symbols.


Priority menu with domestic hot water highlighted; heating and swimming pool as options.


LCD display of a heating controller with temperature parameters and hysteresis values.


Thermostat display: Outside max 35°C (95°F), min -20°C (-4°F), setback down to -20°C (-4°F), flow temperature max 70°C (158°F), temperature difference 4 K.


Display of a heating controller with menu: temperatures, temperature difference, heating TEE, flow living area.


Purple LCD screen with menu: temperatures and process values.
chewbacca1236 Dec 2019 15:19
Bookstar schrieb:

Is this an old building, or why is the VLT so high? Everything seems incorrectly set.

Take a look at the evaluation pictures; this is a new build. What can I optimize and how? Or rather: how many kilowatt-hours of electricity should the system consume per month? Just roughly. We have 170 m² (1830 sq ft) of living space that is heated, except for the hallways where the heating is off. Let’s say about 155 m² (1668 sq ft) of heated area.

Monochrome LCD menu of a device showing Info+Settings, Automatic mode, Temperature +0.0°C, Setpoint 49.0°C.


Display of a heating controller with heating curve and temperatures: +40.0°C, -20.0°C, +20.0°C


Temperature controller screen with target value +49.0°C (120.2°F), arrow scale, and check marks/symbols.


Screen menu priorities: Domestic hot water selected; heating, swimming pool as options; icons at the bottom.


Screen showing temperature menus; outside max 35°C (95°F), min -20°C (-4°F), setback -20°C (-4°F); flow max 70°C (158°F); temperature difference 4/2K


LCD screen of heating control: temperature menu with highlighted TEE heating.


Close-up of a digital temperature display with parameters such as return and setpoint temperature.
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Tego12
6 Dec 2019 16:05
ludwig88sta schrieb:

Isn't there a "not" missing?

No, the 100 kg (220 lb) installer handled it quite comfortably. It can also support the window cleaner.
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Lumpi_LE
6 Dec 2019 16:08
chewbacca123 schrieb:

Take a look at the analysis images, it’s a new build
The heating curve looks quite normal, it’s very strange that it shows you any flow temperatures of 65°C (149°F)…
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guckuck2
6 Dec 2019 16:17
An endpoint temperature of 40°C (104°F) is not normal; it should be a maximum of 35°C (95°F), assuming this refers to the supply temperature. If it is the return temperature, 40°C (104°F) would be significantly too high; 29-30°C (84-86°F) should be sufficient in that case.

The mention of 65-70°C (149-158°F) might only indicate a system maximum limit. This doesn’t necessarily mean the temperature actually reaches that high. To clarify, you would need to know the control system better.

Another notable point is the 49°C (120°F) for domestic hot water, which is quite high and therefore energy-intensive. Around 45°C (113°F) should be enough, or even less depending on the size of the storage tank and usage patterns.