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Created on: 28 Jan 2016 08:54
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Zwark
Good morning!
We are about to finalize the planning for our single-family house; we want to build 1.5 stories with a knee wall of 150 cm (59 inches), keeping it as compact as possible. So far, we have been very satisfied with the design from the planner of the construction company, but now that I’m working on the interior layout, the combined living-dining-kitchen area feels a bit cramped. We definitely want a seating corner in the dining area, but I’m afraid that might be difficult to fit (kitchen + seating area). Now I’m considering whether we should generally enlarge the house so everything fits comfortably (from 10.13 x 9 m (33.3 x 29.5 ft) to 11 x 9.5 m (36 x 31 ft)). Maybe someone here has some helpful tips?
The house has a basement, the clear room height in the living areas is 260 cm (102 inches), and a pitched roof with dormer and a 35° slope is planned. The plot is about 900 m² (9700 sq ft), with a 3-meter (10 ft) setback required from the neighbors. Two parking spaces (carport) at the front by the street are included in the plan. Thank you very much and best regards
We are about to finalize the planning for our single-family house; we want to build 1.5 stories with a knee wall of 150 cm (59 inches), keeping it as compact as possible. So far, we have been very satisfied with the design from the planner of the construction company, but now that I’m working on the interior layout, the combined living-dining-kitchen area feels a bit cramped. We definitely want a seating corner in the dining area, but I’m afraid that might be difficult to fit (kitchen + seating area). Now I’m considering whether we should generally enlarge the house so everything fits comfortably (from 10.13 x 9 m (33.3 x 29.5 ft) to 11 x 9.5 m (36 x 31 ft)). Maybe someone here has some helpful tips?
The house has a basement, the clear room height in the living areas is 260 cm (102 inches), and a pitched roof with dormer and a 35° slope is planned. The plot is about 900 m² (9700 sq ft), with a 3-meter (10 ft) setback required from the neighbors. Two parking spaces (carport) at the front by the street are included in the plan. Thank you very much and best regards
Even with a dormer, the room still has sloped ceilings. I simply find it more comfortable not to sleep directly under the roof.
I am very particular—or rather sensitive—when it comes to sleeping. In the past, I even taped over the keyhole to keep it completely dark. Otherwise, I typically wake up after about 6 hours.
And houses with knee walls are also more affordable.
I am very particular—or rather sensitive—when it comes to sleeping. In the past, I even taped over the keyhole to keep it completely dark. Otherwise, I typically wake up after about 6 hours.
And houses with knee walls are also more affordable.
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Sebastian7931 Jan 2016 14:22Of course, you have sloped ceilings, but you didn’t object to that; instead, you focused on rain (a matter of personal taste) and now also on the darkness.
And for that—believe it or not—there are actually roller shutters. They make it really, really dark.
You’re welcome to explain the last sentence as well—are you trying to put traditional gable roof houses down? Calling them cheap across the board is definitely not accurate...
And for that—believe it or not—there are actually roller shutters. They make it really, really dark.
You’re welcome to explain the last sentence as well—are you trying to put traditional gable roof houses down? Calling them cheap across the board is definitely not accurate...
tomtom79 schrieb:
Even with a dormer, there are still sloped ceilings in the room. I simply find it more comfortable not to sleep directly under the roof.
I am very particular, or rather sensitive, when it comes to sleeping—I used to even cover the keyhole to keep it dark. Otherwise, my night ends after 6 hours.
And houses with knee walls are usually cheaper.As I already said, these are all your personal preferences. For others, sleeping under sloped ceilings is part of the comfort (you also sleep under a roof with a flat roof or others, anyway). Some prefer quietness, others don’t mind the sound of rain (which, by the way, you don’t hear under a pitched roof—at least not here—you only hear something if rain hits the shutters at an angle). I always have a (lamp) alarm clock next to my bed; for me, it’s not too bright, and I don’t need to turn on a light if I have to get up at night. Everyone has to decide these things for themselves (and when building their house).
Houses with knee walls don’t have to be cheaper—that’s just a generalization—and who cares. Sometimes a pitched roof is also a good choice if building a two-story house is not allowed.
Yes, there are roof windows with roller shutters, but rain still hits them and it is definitely louder.
And yes, if you sleep directly under the roof, you can hear the rain, maybe even the wind more strongly.
I probably made the mistake of not expressing myself clearly; the window and rain comment is a memory from the past.
Are you seriously suggesting that two full floors cost the same as a knee wall? And no, that’s not meant negatively; some building areas only allow that. We were lucky to have the freedom to choose and thus gain an additional 10m x 10m x 1.80m (33ft x 33ft x 5.9ft) of space under the roof.
And yes, if you sleep directly under the roof, you can hear the rain, maybe even the wind more strongly.
I probably made the mistake of not expressing myself clearly; the window and rain comment is a memory from the past.
Are you seriously suggesting that two full floors cost the same as a knee wall? And no, that’s not meant negatively; some building areas only allow that. We were lucky to have the freedom to choose and thus gain an additional 10m x 10m x 1.80m (33ft x 33ft x 5.9ft) of space under the roof.
tomtom79 schrieb:
And yes, if you sleep directly under a roof, you can hear the rain, maybe even the wind more clearly.
Are you seriously suggesting that two full stories cost the same as a knee wall? And no, that’s not meant negatively; some building zones don’t allow anything else. We were lucky to decide freely and gain an additional 10 x 10 x 1.80 meters (33 x 33 x 5.9 feet) of space under the roof.1. No. Under my pitched roof, it is completely quiet; at most, you hear the rain hitting the non-roof window when it’s windy.
2. With the same living area, the price difference is certainly not significant. You have to compare properly. 10 x 10 x 1.8 meters (33 x 33 x 5.9 feet) of space under the roof—is that a flat roof? That sounds like wasted money; it reads like a “half story” where you couldn’t stand upright in one place.
I prefer my attic under the half-hip roof, where I can stand upright in the middle and store things on the sides where it becomes “lower.”
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Sebastian7931 Jan 2016 14:44And why does the comment "it's even cheaper" come up at all if it’s not meant in a derogatory way?
A gable roof with dormers and roof windows can definitely be more expensive than a simple house - depending on the quantity and design, these can be quite costly. Whatever the price is supposed to indicate here...
And if properly insulated, you won’t hear the wind or rain any louder. By the way, there are roof windows that reduce the sound of raindrops. But as mentioned several times, it’s a matter of personal taste – we installed an extra-large roof window centered above our bed simply because we think it looks cool.
A gable roof with dormers and roof windows can definitely be more expensive than a simple house - depending on the quantity and design, these can be quite costly. Whatever the price is supposed to indicate here...
And if properly insulated, you won’t hear the wind or rain any louder. By the way, there are roof windows that reduce the sound of raindrops. But as mentioned several times, it’s a matter of personal taste – we installed an extra-large roof window centered above our bed simply because we think it looks cool.
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