ᐅ Toilet prices ranging from €27.90 to €500 – objective information on the price differences?
Created on: 17 May 2017 18:58
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Hello!
After receiving a hefty quote for bathroom fixtures of around €22,200 (about €900 for a toilet bowl), I just got back from the ICU recovery room and am now dealing with toilet bowls.
The rimless wall-hung toilet from the company with the +, their own brand, seems to be from Laufen according to my research and has an average rating of 1/5 stars on Amazon. Reason: water splashes out at the front, and quality appears to be mediocre.
I went to the home improvement store (*ahem*) and saw:
- Standard wall-hung toilet €29
- Rimless wall-hung toilet €89
- Brand-name rimless toilet €300
When I asked, the saleswoman said, "Oh, it’s all the same, they all work equally well; you just pay more for the brand name with the branded manufacturers."
The super-premium rimless toilet from TOTO with Tornado Flush I found online for about €380.
In my apartment, there is a roughly 35-year-old toilet, now with many dull spots, but it still wonderfully houses the 'product.' I clean it every few weeks with some cleaner and a brush. So far, no complaints.
So, quite simply: Where on earth is the difference?
Thank you very much for your input!
After receiving a hefty quote for bathroom fixtures of around €22,200 (about €900 for a toilet bowl), I just got back from the ICU recovery room and am now dealing with toilet bowls.
The rimless wall-hung toilet from the company with the +, their own brand, seems to be from Laufen according to my research and has an average rating of 1/5 stars on Amazon. Reason: water splashes out at the front, and quality appears to be mediocre.
I went to the home improvement store (*ahem*) and saw:
- Standard wall-hung toilet €29
- Rimless wall-hung toilet €89
- Brand-name rimless toilet €300
When I asked, the saleswoman said, "Oh, it’s all the same, they all work equally well; you just pay more for the brand name with the branded manufacturers."
The super-premium rimless toilet from TOTO with Tornado Flush I found online for about €380.
In my apartment, there is a roughly 35-year-old toilet, now with many dull spots, but it still wonderfully houses the 'product.' I clean it every few weeks with some cleaner and a brush. So far, no complaints.
So, quite simply: Where on earth is the difference?
Thank you very much for your input!
@Nordlys sometimes I don’t know whether to laugh or scream at your posts.
The home improvement stores you mentioned certainly don’t impress here in terms of selection. They have maybe 10 toilets, three of which are brand-name, the rest are private label. Showers and bathtubs are even worse. And there’s the problem you mentioned: if you don’t want to pay exorbitant shipping fees, you have to pick them up in-store. And almost everything is made to order.
If you look at the internet as a whole, there are two suppliers that really stand out both online and in their showrooms.
These are the ones I already mentioned earlier. The only downside is that both are located in the Rhineland.
The home improvement stores you mentioned certainly don’t impress here in terms of selection. They have maybe 10 toilets, three of which are brand-name, the rest are private label. Showers and bathtubs are even worse. And there’s the problem you mentioned: if you don’t want to pay exorbitant shipping fees, you have to pick them up in-store. And almost everything is made to order.
If you look at the internet as a whole, there are two suppliers that really stand out both online and in their showrooms.
These are the ones I already mentioned earlier. The only downside is that both are located in the Rhineland.
Nordlys schrieb:
The local plumbing supply stores with a good selection, fair prices, and everything available for take-away do exist. They are called Bauhaus, Hornbach, OBI, toom, etc. However, they also save on staff. Really dangerous. Many parts sold there cannot withstand any pressure testing and are more than just ticking time bombs. Anything involving water and pressure should not be cheap Chinese imports. Don’t put yourselves through that! You spend hundreds of thousands on the house and then save €500, only to have the house flooded. And when the insurance adjuster finds out that the whole flooding was caused by an uncertified cheap fitting, they might not even pay out (or you have to struggle through lawsuits with experts and so on).
Unfortunately, hardware stores sell a lot of this nonsense without certification. Even a plumbing company is not allowed to install parts like these. That should make you think.
Payday schrieb:
IKEA kitchens include the cabinet carcasses and doors, but not the appliances. Appliances are usually bought online at the best prices. Except for the stove, everything else uses standard Schuko plugs and can be connected electrically in two seconds (just plug it in). It also depends on individual needs. For Nordlys, the IKEA appliances were sufficient.
For us, even the IKEA kitchen with BSH appliances ordered online (shipping costs and so on not even included yet) was quite expensive compared to the quality offered. We initially thought the IKEA kitchen would be affordable, but it wasn’t once all costs were added up and compared with the best prices from kitchen studios and furniture stores for better kitchens with the same appliances.
tomtom79 schrieb:
@matte we have the Duravit DuraStyle wall-hung rimless toilet combo pack, no visible fixings and no splash out. The price including the seat is 280 euros, which is quite a bargain.
In the granny flat, I installed something from Villeroy & Boch,
the Villeroy & Boch Omnia Architectura toilet seat even came with an isolation mat.
149€ and it works, but I’ve only tested it twice so far with no splash visible. Since the topic of purchasing is relevant again:
Which version did you install? Feel free to send me a private message with links.
We have actually decided on that model now, after all, it’s just a toilet bowl. I like the model anyway and my wife doesn’t see any reason to spend more money just to get a “nicer” model.
I find the Villeroy & Boch Omnia Architectura very appealing, at least in terms of design and price. How is it holding up in @tomtom79’s stress test? Is there any overflow?
We are about to move in, and I’m currently sourcing supplies. These four options are on my shortlist:
- DIY store toilet for €27 (about $30), siphonic toilet with a conventional rim
- DIY store toilet for €89 (about $100), siphonic toilet without a rim
- Villeroy & Boch Omnia Architectura around €110 (about $120), siphonic toilet without a rim
- Toto toilet around €450 (about $490), quasi rimless siphonic toilet
We are about to move in, and I’m currently sourcing supplies. These four options are on my shortlist:
- DIY store toilet for €27 (about $30), siphonic toilet with a conventional rim
- DIY store toilet for €89 (about $100), siphonic toilet without a rim
- Villeroy & Boch Omnia Architectura around €110 (about $120), siphonic toilet without a rim
- Toto toilet around €450 (about $490), quasi rimless siphonic toilet
Winniefred27 Sep 2017 14:44We purchased mid-range quality products at the hardware store (toilets cost about €180-220 each; you can still negotiate there). We handled the demolition and assembly ourselves. The plumbers took care of the rough installation, shower walls, and bathtub installation, and the tilers did the tiling (we got the tiles significantly cheaper through the tiler at a specialized retailer). Overall, we spent around €6,000-8,000 for two small bathrooms. I can’t give an exact figure because the plumbers did a lot of work elsewhere in the house, so I can’t clearly separate the costs. We mainly chose Grohe and Hansgrohe fixtures, as well as Keramag and Schulte products. A new window was also installed by ourselves at the same time.
However, it was a lot of work, and I don’t want to hide that. Coordinating the trades (electrician, plumber, tiler) along with doing our own work was not easy.
However, it was a lot of work, and I don’t want to hide that. Coordinating the trades (electrician, plumber, tiler) along with doing our own work was not easy.
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