ᐅ Tiling on the upper floor of a new build – no staircase available
Created on: 14 Nov 2020 14:49
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Hello,
We would like to have tiles (45x90 cm [18x35 inches]) installed in the bathroom (13 m² [140 ft²]) on the upper floor of our single-family house, where the screed is already in place. The tiler says he needs a staircase to do this, which we do not have yet. The windows are already installed, and we could at best manage a ladder to get from the ground floor to the upper floor. However, I imagine carrying the tile packages up using a ladder would be quite exhausting.
Has anyone faced this issue before or does anyone have helpful tips on how to get the heavy tiles upstairs under these circumstances?
(Waiting until the staircase is installed is not an option.)
Thank you in advance!
We would like to have tiles (45x90 cm [18x35 inches]) installed in the bathroom (13 m² [140 ft²]) on the upper floor of our single-family house, where the screed is already in place. The tiler says he needs a staircase to do this, which we do not have yet. The windows are already installed, and we could at best manage a ladder to get from the ground floor to the upper floor. However, I imagine carrying the tile packages up using a ladder would be quite exhausting.
Has anyone faced this issue before or does anyone have helpful tips on how to get the heavy tiles upstairs under these circumstances?
(Waiting until the staircase is installed is not an option.)
Thank you in advance!
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Alessandro18 Nov 2020 14:12Are you providing the tiles yourself, or will the tiler supply them?
So, now it’s my turn as well. I had the interior stairs removed and am now managing this myself. Because of this thread and since I know my general contractor better now, I asked him about the construction staircase. Obviously, I need to provide it myself now, as it was implicitly included with the interior stair supplier but was removed along with the stairs. Since the scope of work doesn’t explicitly mention a construction staircase/planning permission, I’m probably responsible either way.
But that’s not really my main concern. While thinking about the staircase and whether I could just build it myself, I started wondering how the other tasks work around it.
Masons and carpenters, as well as roofers, access the site via scaffolding, but by the time the window installation starts, you’d actually want a staircase. Ok, I’ll just build one then.
But the insulation and then the screed/floor leveling usually come after the windows. Is that applied around the staircase and later filled in? Or does the construction staircase have to be removed in between and rebuilt once the screed has hardened? Or does the screed installation happen so late that the electrician and HVAC installer have already finished their work to the extent that they then wait for the final interior stairs? (According to the stair builder, six weeks after screed, and the measurements are taken only after screed installation.)
Does anyone know? There’s plenty of discussion online about work sequences, but I haven’t found details on this exact interface...
But that’s not really my main concern. While thinking about the staircase and whether I could just build it myself, I started wondering how the other tasks work around it.
Masons and carpenters, as well as roofers, access the site via scaffolding, but by the time the window installation starts, you’d actually want a staircase. Ok, I’ll just build one then.
But the insulation and then the screed/floor leveling usually come after the windows. Is that applied around the staircase and later filled in? Or does the construction staircase have to be removed in between and rebuilt once the screed has hardened? Or does the screed installation happen so late that the electrician and HVAC installer have already finished their work to the extent that they then wait for the final interior stairs? (According to the stair builder, six weeks after screed, and the measurements are taken only after screed installation.)
Does anyone know? There’s plenty of discussion online about work sequences, but I haven’t found details on this exact interface...
Tolentino schrieb:
Does anyone know? There is talk online about sequences, but I can’t find this exact interface... Because most people don’t have a construction staircase and manage with a portable ladder. And yes, besides tiles also bathtub, windows, and drywall 🙂
Seriously? I think they’re going to kill me.
Well, I’ve now asked my site manager about it.
The real joke would be if they usually build without a construction staircase but now, just because of my question, say, “Yeah, go ahead and put up a construction staircase for us…”
I’ve got a quote for my type of construction staircase for over 380 gross, but it’s only for rent. I think I’ll just assemble it myself. I can still use the planks for something else later…
Well, I’ve now asked my site manager about it.
The real joke would be if they usually build without a construction staircase but now, just because of my question, say, “Yeah, go ahead and put up a construction staircase for us…”
I’ve got a quote for my type of construction staircase for over 380 gross, but it’s only for rent. I think I’ll just assemble it myself. I can still use the planks for something else later…
@KlaRa: Could you perhaps explain the sequence and connections between the construction staircase, insulation, screed, and the final staircase as asked above? Also, where exactly should the finished staircase ultimately rest? The staircase installer says on the screed or tiles. However, I have read online that it should be on the raw subfloor because load-bearing parts must never be rigidly connected to floating elements...
In this regard, leaving openings for the construction staircase footprint would even make sense so that the finished staircase can then be connected to the raw subfloor. But how do you close everything up at the end?
In this regard, leaving openings for the construction staircase footprint would even make sense so that the finished staircase can then be connected to the raw subfloor. But how do you close everything up at the end?
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