ᐅ Tiled shower floor – sooner or later problems caused by the silicone seal?
Created on: 11 Feb 2021 17:09
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annab377
Hello everyone,
If I want to tile the floor of my shower area, won’t I sooner or later (likely after more than 10 years) encounter problems at the following spot:
the silicone joint between the outer floor tile and the first vertical wall tile next to it? This joint will surely be filled with silicone or acrylic, and sooner or later there will be a leak there. Then water will run—without me noticing much—under the tiles while showering.
Isn’t this a major drawback of tiled shower areas?
Thanks and best regards,
annab377
If I want to tile the floor of my shower area, won’t I sooner or later (likely after more than 10 years) encounter problems at the following spot:
the silicone joint between the outer floor tile and the first vertical wall tile next to it? This joint will surely be filled with silicone or acrylic, and sooner or later there will be a leak there. Then water will run—without me noticing much—under the tiles while showering.
Isn’t this a major drawback of tiled shower areas?
Thanks and best regards,
annab377
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NoggerLoger27 Feb 2021 12:14Well, this can be designed in a more intelligent way. Time and presence-dependent, combined with the Nuki lock. I was thinking more along those lines... At this point, a logic system or an interface between the KNX server and Nuki will be required.
NoggerLoger schrieb:
@guckuck2 You don’t have to turn it up from 0 to 100 all at once. In the evening, open the valves slightly and open them fully when present, plus use an electric heating cartridge. This can be well represented in the software. Wrong topic regarding the shower question 😉NoggerLoger schrieb:
Well, this can be made smarter. Time of day and presence-dependent, plus integration with the Nuki lock. I was actually thinking of something like that... At that point, you need logic or an interface between the KNX server and Nuki. Sure, you can include factors that raise the temperature early. However, presence then becomes irrelevant, and a lock doesn’t seem like a meaningful indicator for when the radiator should warm up. Ultimately, this just amounts to a “dumb” timer switch.
Also, keep in mind that a towel radiator connected to the supply line of the underfloor heating will only provide warm towels at an outdoor temperature of -15 degrees Celsius (5°F). Heating cartridges are completely pointless in such systems because their heat is not retained in the radiator.
If you want warm towels, you need to choose a fully electric system and activate it 20–30 minutes before showering (triggered by whatever).
Alternatively, plan a second heating circuit with a significantly higher supply temperature.
For more complex logic, I use a Gira X1.
@annab377 There are ready-made drainage systems available that can be cut to the required length. These systems also include all the sealing layers you need. Your plumber or tiler will be familiar with this as well.
Regarding the heating load: this might be a bit of a simple approach, but we just extended the bathroom’s underfloor heating circuit by adding some ceiling heating panels. This effectively doubled the heating surface without being visible, and we are literally completely satisfied. It cost us less than 500,--.
Of course, you can also control radiators and electric heating elements through KNX, actuators, logic, and an AI that learns individual habits based on the time of day and sun position... we just hadn’t thought of that 😎
Regarding the heating load: this might be a bit of a simple approach, but we just extended the bathroom’s underfloor heating circuit by adding some ceiling heating panels. This effectively doubled the heating surface without being visible, and we are literally completely satisfied. It cost us less than 500,--.
Of course, you can also control radiators and electric heating elements through KNX, actuators, logic, and an AI that learns individual habits based on the time of day and sun position... we just hadn’t thought of that 😎