ᐅ The building authority rejected the construction application because the house was planned too far back on the lot.

Created on: 29 Sep 2020 11:44
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dynaudio79
Hello everyone.

The bad luck with our house project just doesn’t stop.
Today, after 3 months, we finally received the notice for a hearing from the building authority.
The house exceeds the rear building line by nearly 2 meters (6.5 feet).
Unfortunately, the woman at the office won’t be back until Thursday.
What options do we have now?
Is it possible to simply move the house forward, or does everything need to be reapplied for?
We are getting married on Thursday, and this really hits us hard.

Best regards
dynaudio7918 Oct 2020 13:10
icandoit schrieb:

Shifting the house 3 meters (10 feet) on the plan and adjusting the related dimensions shouldn’t be a problem in the age of CAD. Do you already have the updated plan? The delay is frustrating. I’d recommend going to the building authority in person; the staff are usually willing to talk. Maybe they’ll even give you a belated wedding gift.
By the way, best wishes for your marriage.

Thank you!
Due to COVID-19, you can only enter the building authority by appointment. Going there spontaneously is not possible.
I’m in phone contact with the case officer, who is very nice and reasonable to talk to.
She says she often deals with so-called architects who, in the end, have no real qualifications, so she must unfortunately reject their submissions or issue additional requirements. She often wonders where they got their titles from.

The house only needed to be moved 2 meters (6.5 feet) forward.
The garage ridge height had to be corrected because it was different in the elevation drawing than in the section.
The building class of the house also has to be changed because the designer altered it due to the garage.
Everything else remains the same.

Anyway, it is what it is. But because of this, we can probably forget about starting construction this year.
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icandoit
18 Oct 2020 14:20
Have you scheduled any appointments? I would hold the contractor responsible for any delays. He is accountable.
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guckuck2
18 Oct 2020 14:43
icandoit schrieb:

Moving the house 3 meters (10 feet) on the plan and adjusting the related dimensions shouldn’t be a problem nowadays with CAD. Do you already have the updated plan? The delay is frustrating. I recommend going to the building authority in person—they are usually willing to cooperate. Maybe they’ll even give you a belated wedding gift.
By the way, congratulations on your marriage.

Including the site plan, which might not be something you can handle personally.

It’s also worth taking 5 minutes to consider the necessary adjustments to the elevation instead of just “quickly” shifting the building in CAD.
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icandoit
18 Oct 2020 14:54
guckuck2 schrieb:

It’s worth spending five minutes thinking about adjusting the elevation, rather than just quickly moving the building in the CAD model.

These are the related adjustments.
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hampshire
18 Oct 2020 16:59
I can completely understand your frustration. When looking at it objectively, it doesn’t matter who made which mistake or when if your goal is to start construction as early as possible. You can still invest energy later if it’s important for you to find out who is responsible.

  • Question to the construction company:
    • By when will the new plan be submitted?
  • Question to the building authority:
    • By when will the new plan be processed?
  • Statement to the construction company:
    • No additional costs will be paid for resubmitting the plan.
    • Additional costs resulting from higher approval fees or lost subsidies due to delays will not be charged to the client.
  • Tone: clear, cooperative, and focused on acceleration (you can always escalate later. No need to use all ammunition immediately, which often isn’t necessary)
When anger takes over, the goal can get lost sight of, which greatly increases the risk of failure.
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Pinkiponk
20 Oct 2020 20:13
dynaudio79 schrieb:

We didn’t say anything about the 13m because it’s okay for us, and I want a lot of space at the front. The plot is long enough to have plenty of room to expand at the back.
Otherwise, I would have said that 13m is not acceptable.
And since we believe the architect knows what she’s doing and understands what is possible and what is not, this was never questioned.
The chimney measurement refers to the upper edge of the finished floor.

I can understand your point since we also want to rely on what the planners propose. In your case, I would simply assume that the architect has contacted the building authority and knows what is allowed and what is not. Our planner has also planned to do this for some aspects of our design.

What I find in general is that almost nobody likes it when their work is questioned — especially if they have studied a relevant field or have received specialized training and have a lot of experience. Then you’re expected to constantly justify your work to non-experts. I think this is quite a difficult interpersonal dilemma, and I have not yet found a satisfying solution for this in our own house building process.

I think it would be best if the municipalities where the building site is located would provide builders with a planner for a fee. That way, everyone would know that everything is done according to the rules.

Is it actually possible to visit the building authority for advice before submitting a building permit / planning permission application?