ᐅ The architect wants to handle only design phases 1 through 4.
Created on: 10 May 2023 14:23
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Maulwurfbau
Hello forum,
For our construction project, we have settled on a regional timber frame builder. Compared to the large well-known prefab house companies, this is a rather small company, now taken over by the son, that has been building timber frame houses for several decades.
I am now planning to hire an architect because I don’t feel completely comfortable planning with a salesperson from the construction company.
The architect only wants to prepare 1-4 plans, so just up to the building permit / planning permission stage.
Is this an acceptable approach? I was generally thinking yes, since the builder has their own systems and would handle their own detailed execution planning, right?
Thanks in advance.
For our construction project, we have settled on a regional timber frame builder. Compared to the large well-known prefab house companies, this is a rather small company, now taken over by the son, that has been building timber frame houses for several decades.
I am now planning to hire an architect because I don’t feel completely comfortable planning with a salesperson from the construction company.
The architect only wants to prepare 1-4 plans, so just up to the building permit / planning permission stage.
Is this an acceptable approach? I was generally thinking yes, since the builder has their own systems and would handle their own detailed execution planning, right?
Thanks in advance.
Maulwurfbau schrieb:
No, it will be fine. It has already been coordinated with the architect. What exactly has been agreed upon, and what type of architect is it?
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Maulwurfbau12 May 2023 12:07Ah, so the planning is only up to phase 3. Then the construction company takes over.
I don’t want to mention any third-party names here.
It is an independent architect.
Thanks again for the tips!
I don’t want to mention any third-party names here.
It is an independent architect.
Thanks again for the tips!
Maulwurfbau schrieb:
I don’t want to throw around the names of third parties here.
It is an independent architect.I wasn’t referring to the name: how did you find him, and is he a Steiner?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Maulwurfbau16 May 2023 08:31I would say it is a Steiner. However, he knows what he is getting into and already wants to be in contact with the timber construction company early on.
11ant schrieb:
I also thank you for the hints where I may not have explained something in a way that is understandable even for beginners.
The design by a "masonry architect" would of course be affected by this phenomenon. What I advised in post #5 for those readers who have not yet committed to a specific general contractor (GC) applies in essence also to those who have already found their GC—whether wood or masonry: namely, to initiate discussions with the GC as early as the completion of design phase 2, that is, the preliminary design. So, even if you consult "A better Place" or other architects experienced in timber construction, involve the GC before moving into design phase 3. Also, for design phases 1 through 3, consider having two separate architect contracts: one covering phases 1 and 2—also known as "Module A"—with the option to continue into phase 3, and a second contract after the resting period (the "dough resting phase") for phase 3. If you search these terms in quotation marks on Google (external links are not desired here), you will find my explanations: "A House Building Roadmap, also for you: the HOAI phase model!" is a series of posts on understanding the phase model and my recommendations for dividing the phases into portions.
Before design phase 3, I ALWAYS recommend inserting the dough resting phase!With the relatively affordable fixed prices that the "a better place" architects offer, would they even qualify for the @Gerddieter Approved seal?
Aspirant schrieb:
With the relatively affordable fixed prices offered by the “a better place” architects, would they even qualify for the @Gerddieter Approved seal?Since I haven’t worked on any projects together with them, I don’t have a personal impression of how their prices are justified. But I assume they wouldn’t "fail" with @Gerddieter, as I don’t consider them to be price-unaware design studio artists. How suitable this group is at all for some kind of "seal" certification, I don’t know: from what I’ve seen, they are more of an open network of cooperating architects, and it’s not clear to me who is ultimately responsible. They apparently work closely with the "prefab house specialist" I often recommend, and mainly design prefab homes. My approach (and that of the architects I have found) is quite different, as I usually recommend deciding on the construction method only after the initial planning phase. If someone seeks my advice but is already biased toward a particular building method, I always try to bring them back to the decision point and have them reconsider their preconceptions. Of course, there are reasons “for (or even against) this or that,” but in the remaining more than 60% of cases, preferences are based on misunderstandings—specifically the supposedly more solid / durable “massive” house or the quicker built / more cost-secure “prefab” house. Unfortunately, the real core of these popular (mis)beliefs is not worth the tears in either case.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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