Hello everyone,
Since this is about being "outside," this seemed like the most appropriate subforum.
We have been living in the house for 3.5 years now and are currently looking into the topic of patio roofing. I have already had initial on-site discussions with two local companies. Unfortunately, these talks raised more questions than answers.
The area to be covered is about 26 sqm (280 sq ft). Width 7.30 m (24 ft) and depth 4.00 m (13 ft), with the special feature that part of the patio narrows diagonally, so the depth on the left side is not 4.00 m but 2.00 m (7 ft). This means that part of the roof and drainage must slope diagonally and be adjusted on-site; a roof of a standard size x by y meters won’t work for us.
What we originally wanted and were offered:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- 10 mm (0.4 inch) laminated safety glass (VSG) roofing
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- Under-roof shading with a wireless sensor
- Both sides (left with 2.00 m (7 ft) depth and right with 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs 19,000 EUR. Shading on top of the roof with a weather station was even more expensive. Shading adapted to the sloping area was even pricier. The affordable under-roof shading would not cover the sloped section of about 3 sqm (32 sq ft).
What the second company proposed:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- White milky polycarbonate twin-wall panels roofing *
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- No shading
- Only one side (right 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs "only" 8,000 EUR.
* This company specializes in polycarbonate twin-wall panels. Apparently, this roofing has many advantages. A double UV filter protects against the sun, while an integrated prism structure is said to concentrate sunlight and direct it downward, resulting in only 7% light loss. Supposedly, no shading is needed. The climate under it should always feel as if you are sitting in the shade. Polycarbonate is said to be self-cleaning.
I am mainly skeptical now. Of course, I would prefer the cheaper option, but I find it hard to fully believe all these benefits, especially the claim that no shading is necessary. Do you have any experience with this? The main argument against twin-wall panels seems to be noise during rain, but that doesn’t matter to us, so that argument is irrelevant.
Overall, it is very difficult to find a suitable company and to assess the prices. How did you solve this?
Thanks and best regards!
Since this is about being "outside," this seemed like the most appropriate subforum.
We have been living in the house for 3.5 years now and are currently looking into the topic of patio roofing. I have already had initial on-site discussions with two local companies. Unfortunately, these talks raised more questions than answers.
The area to be covered is about 26 sqm (280 sq ft). Width 7.30 m (24 ft) and depth 4.00 m (13 ft), with the special feature that part of the patio narrows diagonally, so the depth on the left side is not 4.00 m but 2.00 m (7 ft). This means that part of the roof and drainage must slope diagonally and be adjusted on-site; a roof of a standard size x by y meters won’t work for us.
What we originally wanted and were offered:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- 10 mm (0.4 inch) laminated safety glass (VSG) roofing
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- Under-roof shading with a wireless sensor
- Both sides (left with 2.00 m (7 ft) depth and right with 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs 19,000 EUR. Shading on top of the roof with a weather station was even more expensive. Shading adapted to the sloping area was even pricier. The affordable under-roof shading would not cover the sloped section of about 3 sqm (32 sq ft).
What the second company proposed:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- White milky polycarbonate twin-wall panels roofing *
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- No shading
- Only one side (right 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs "only" 8,000 EUR.
* This company specializes in polycarbonate twin-wall panels. Apparently, this roofing has many advantages. A double UV filter protects against the sun, while an integrated prism structure is said to concentrate sunlight and direct it downward, resulting in only 7% light loss. Supposedly, no shading is needed. The climate under it should always feel as if you are sitting in the shade. Polycarbonate is said to be self-cleaning.
I am mainly skeptical now. Of course, I would prefer the cheaper option, but I find it hard to fully believe all these benefits, especially the claim that no shading is necessary. Do you have any experience with this? The main argument against twin-wall panels seems to be noise during rain, but that doesn’t matter to us, so that argument is irrelevant.
Overall, it is very difficult to find a suitable company and to assess the prices. How did you solve this?
Thanks and best regards!
Hello everyone,
after deciding against a green flat roof last year, I am currently reconsidering a patio roof.
I have read through the KD thread and just sent a request earlier today.
The roof should be about 5–6 m (16–20 feet) wide and around 4 m (13 feet) deep.
Since we are worried it might get too dark in the adjoining kitchen, I managed to convince my wife to go for a glass roof, provided that I take care of the cleaning... 😀
However, we have bigger concerns about the noise level during rain.
How is it with glass? Our bedroom is right next to the patio on the ground floor.
Am I correct in assuming that a plastic roofing would be louder?
Besides KD, I also contacted Schweng. Can you recommend any other comparable suppliers?
I will also ask local providers for quotes after receiving offers from the companies mentioned above, in order to compare.
Thanks!
after deciding against a green flat roof last year, I am currently reconsidering a patio roof.
I have read through the KD thread and just sent a request earlier today.
The roof should be about 5–6 m (16–20 feet) wide and around 4 m (13 feet) deep.
Since we are worried it might get too dark in the adjoining kitchen, I managed to convince my wife to go for a glass roof, provided that I take care of the cleaning... 😀
However, we have bigger concerns about the noise level during rain.
How is it with glass? Our bedroom is right next to the patio on the ground floor.
Am I correct in assuming that a plastic roofing would be louder?
Besides KD, I also contacted Schweng. Can you recommend any other comparable suppliers?
I will also ask local providers for quotes after receiving offers from the companies mentioned above, in order to compare.
Thanks!
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pagoni20202 May 2021 20:07I previously had a glass roof with a slope, and it caused absolutely no noise issues—felt like there was nothing at all!
For the new build, we are facing the same decision and keep wavering, but in the end, it will probably be a green roof, something dark underneath, also 5x4m (16x13 feet) in size, and located right in front of the kitchen 😀
Overall, I prefer it this way because in summer I like to sit in full shade, and if I want direct sunlight, I can just move my chair outside. But I guess you have to accept some compromise.
Of course, it’s also nice to sit under a glass roof when it’s raining.
I would definitely not choose plastic; I don’t like the look at all.
I never cleaned mine—the rain took care of that automatically, but maybe I’m just a bit lazy…
For the new build, we are facing the same decision and keep wavering, but in the end, it will probably be a green roof, something dark underneath, also 5x4m (16x13 feet) in size, and located right in front of the kitchen 😀
Overall, I prefer it this way because in summer I like to sit in full shade, and if I want direct sunlight, I can just move my chair outside. But I guess you have to accept some compromise.
Of course, it’s also nice to sit under a glass roof when it’s raining.
I would definitely not choose plastic; I don’t like the look at all.
I never cleaned mine—the rain took care of that automatically, but maybe I’m just a bit lazy…
We also have laminated safety glass (VSG) adjacent to the living room. During a heavy downpour, you can hear more noise from the roof in the bedroom than from the canopy in the living room. The wall next to the canopy is 42.5 cm (17 inches) thick. The roof is attached to the concrete ceiling. The wall is made of Poroton.
During normal rain, you don’t hear anything at all.
During normal rain, you don’t hear anything at all.
We have now decided to go with a wooden structure instead of glass.
To keep it from getting too dark, we want to install two skylights. In the long term, the roof will also be extensively greened.
Since we will need a swing soon anyway, I thought about somehow combining the two.
We also have the problem that we don’t quite know where to put the roof drainage.
So this is the design I came up with:
There is space on the left for a swing. If it’s no longer needed, a cozy hanging chair will go there.
On the right, the gutter can be extended and then drained via a chain or a waterspout into the retaining wall.
At the front of the canopy, we’ll install the awning that we unfortunately bought (a bit too early) two years ago. That way, the paddling pool on the terrace can also be shaded, and the awning won’t go to waste. 🙄
I find this quite amusing and am now waiting for the carpenter’s quote.
A bit unusual, but that fits the house quite well 😀:p
To keep it from getting too dark, we want to install two skylights. In the long term, the roof will also be extensively greened.
Since we will need a swing soon anyway, I thought about somehow combining the two.
We also have the problem that we don’t quite know where to put the roof drainage.
So this is the design I came up with:
There is space on the left for a swing. If it’s no longer needed, a cozy hanging chair will go there.
On the right, the gutter can be extended and then drained via a chain or a waterspout into the retaining wall.
At the front of the canopy, we’ll install the awning that we unfortunately bought (a bit too early) two years ago. That way, the paddling pool on the terrace can also be shaded, and the awning won’t go to waste. 🙄
I find this quite amusing and am now waiting for the carpenter’s quote.
A bit unusual, but that fits the house quite well 😀:p
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