ᐅ Patio Roof for a Trapezoidal-Shaped Plot

Don’t be such a crybaby!

Arauki11 schrieb:

Crude exaggerations are often used in discussions but ultimately (deliberately) miss the point.

Then go ahead and count your arguments “dry-shod.”

Arauki11 schrieb:

Well, there are apparently people who preach elsewhere about the absolute shortest routes in the kitchen to "save" one minute.

Then let them preach. I believe that when designing a single-family house, you shouldn’t plan a manor house with north and west wings. Anything up to and including 10 meters (33 feet) shouldn’t even be up for discussion.

ypg schrieb:

Don’t be so sensitive!

Nope, I wouldn’t have time anyway while I’m enjoying the sound of raindrops under my glass terrace roof.

ypg schrieb:

Then list your arguments without getting wet.

I just like it. Just like a completely pointless gallery, a red front door, or whatever else. That’s enough of an argument for me — for me and my way of living. I understand if others feel differently, but I prefer it this way. There’s simply no right or wrong with this kind of thing, and the argument “you don’t need it” is just a conversation stopper since it can always be used. Most of the time, you don’t really need any of it.
My grill is outside, on the covered terrace I like to leave tools overnight or keep my garden shoes dry right by the door, the patio furniture is always dry. Of course, my life wouldn’t be worse the other way around, but that applies to about 90% of the topics we usually discuss here. So I don’t need arguments because I’m not trying to convince anyone, just saying that I like it that way. Otherwise, you wouldn’t even need sun protection. You could just close your eyes and not make a fuss.
Most of my place is uncovered, not even the 5m (16 ft) to the carport, but I do like standing dry inside the front door. You younger folks want the big adventure.

ypg schrieb:

Then let them brag. I’m saying that you don’t design a single-family house like a manor with north and west wings. Anything 10 meters (33 ft) or less shouldn’t even be up for discussion.

My idea was purely about scaling down or adjusting a planned full roof covering.
I’ve got to go to bed.

ypg schrieb:

If the tarp has worked well for 20 years, why switch to something permanent now?

I'll tell you: nowadays people usually leave their furniture outside, even in winter. Plus, cushions, decorations, and other small items that you don’t want to get wet. Then there’s the gas grill, carpet… all of that shouldn’t get wet.

You actually answered your own question.

The alternative was a new tarp.

Today, I have the budget for a glass canopy. Twenty years ago, the DIY tarp for 100 euros was sufficient.

I’m currently investing in my old house: photovoltaic system, heat pump instead of gas, patio roofing, new tarp for the granny flat, and so on.

Hello,
and thank you very much for all the responses. Unfortunately, I’m currently unwell, so please forgive me if I haven’t read everything carefully. But regarding a few of your questions:
The size of our terrace is explicitly exempt from any building permit / planning permission. This is even stated in the BayBO. Since it will be a wooden terrace with a gravel base, soil sealing is not an issue either. So, we are planning the terrace along the entire width of the house.

The additional window in the "terrace wall," which is not visible on the plan, is large but not floor-to-ceiling because our sofa is placed inside there. That’s why we wanted to put a dining area or lounge there.

I agree that I wouldn’t want to suddenly rush into the house from under my dry roof if rain starts.
The problem is that if we partly cover the terrace, a post would stand right in the middle of the terrace door, which would obstruct the view from inside to the garden.
This is our main concern.

Regarding the neighbors’ questions: Since an elderly, very friendly woman lives there who has several children, the ownership will change within our lifetime. As is common, a >1000m2 (10,764 sq ft) plot will be divided and developed after it’s sold. Because transferring setback areas naturally reduces the value of the lot, I can understand why she officially does not want to agree.

The depth of the roof is primarily limited by our budget, as we are officially in snow load zone 3, and anything with more than a 3m (10 ft) rafter span would become absurdly expensive and bulky (according to everyone we have spoken to).

Thanks for your ideas!

I didn’t intend to start any conflict with my thread. I fully understand that everyone has different preferences.
That’s why I asked the question openly, to step outside of my own bubble and get inspired by alternative ideas.
Maybe there’s something I haven’t considered yet.
So please just accept what’s been said and don’t take other opinions as a personal attack.
I’m happy to receive any suggestions, whether I like them or not. Thanks again!

You don’t need to worry about that at all. In reality, most participants have developed a close and almost friendly relationship over the past years. And even if there were disagreements, it would actually be positive to have sparked a creative and constructive debate.

That’s the beauty of it—everyone presents their perspective and explains their reasoning, allowing the person asking the question to see if they identify with any of it. Homebuilding in Germany is generally much too restrained and full of socially accepted norms.