ᐅ Patio Roof for a Trapezoidal-Shaped Plot

Our tarp has served us well for 20 years. Now, a roof structure is being constructed.
A tarp does not require a building permit (planning permission) and is also allowed to extend into the setback area.

It also costs only a fraction.

chriscryzl schrieb:

@ypg Definitely a glass roof. What you can't see in the plan is that a second large window has been added on the side where the terrace is, to bring more light inside. We don't want to lose that again with a roof now.

And below the dining table on the plan, is there also a huge window?

Nice-Nofret schrieb:

Honestly, I don’t understand where the panic about a little water from the sky comes from.

No one is talking about panic.
I find it pleasant, just like having a canopy at the entrance. And as I mentioned before, if I move my terrace to the side, it would be nice to be able to reach it without getting wet in the rain.
From that perspective, I would never need a carport, and certainly no garage, since water affects a car even less.
So... no panic – just personal preference.

Musketier schrieb:

We didn’t have a canopy for the first 2-3 years, but now I wouldn’t want to be without one.

As always, there are many ways to Rome. Nothing right or wrong, just different preferences.

We also have a canopy – but staying dry when going from the garage into the house just isn’t possible.

Hehe

Arauki11 schrieb:

However, in your situation, you are missing the necessary dry path to the outside in my opinion; otherwise, for example, you could have just roofed the area above the wall.

Arauki11 schrieb:

Anyway, you definitely keep your feet dry when leaving the house.

Nice-Nofret schrieb:

Dry feet when leaving the house. We don’t have that,

What kind of houses do you all live in that you can’t leave without getting your feet wet? Do you all have water damage inside your homes?
This whining about possibly getting wet. So what?! Either I plan 10 meters (33 feet) to the compost bin or I don’t and dispose of it later. Your vehicles aren’t parked 50 meters (165 feet) from the house either, but 5 meters (16 feet).
No one is forced to go out on the terrace when it’s raining. And if they do, they’ll manage.

When was the last time it actually rained during the day? Here in damp Hamburg, it felt like mid-January. And if it rains heavily for 30 days straight in June, you either press your nose flat from inside or dance in the rain because you want to.

hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Now a roof is being built.

If the tarp has worked well for 20 years, why build something permanent now?

I’ll tell you why: nowadays, people mostly keep their furniture outside, even in winter. Plus, there are cushions, decorations, and other stuff you don’t want to get wet. Then there’s the gas grill, rugs… none of that should get damp. Maybe some households still smoke on the terrace. The days when you grill in the afternoon and get surprised by rain in the evening have become very rare thanks to weather apps and can be counted on one hand. And if there’s a storm, most roofs under 3 meters (10 feet) deep won’t keep everything dry anyway. Also, you can’t do without a roof since it’s considered standard like food and a children’s bath. Understand?

ypg schrieb:

Is the terrace already installed?

Will there be more, stranger?
On the west side, I recommend at least 4 meters (13 feet) depth.

ypg schrieb:

This whining about maybe getting a little wet. So what?! Either I factor in a 10-meter (33 feet) walk to the composter or I don’t and dispose of waste later. Your vehicles aren’t parked 50 meters (164 feet) from the house either, but 5.
No one is forced to go out on the terrace in the rain. And if they do, they’ll manage just fine.

Well, there are supposedly people who preach elsewhere about the shortest possible routes in the kitchen, trying to save one minute, and how terrible it would be otherwise. To each their own, I guess. Just accept that everyone has their own truth or feeling—that’s not the same as yours. Over-the-top exaggerations are often used in discussions but ultimately distract from the main point, sometimes intentionally.
I lived in a house for 25 years without a carport or garage and everything was fine, even though my kitchen routes didn’t follow the “rules” in this forum, but that didn’t make us feel any less comfortable. I often sat on the terrace under the glass roof when it rained (sorry, dance class rejected me) and felt completely at ease. Apparently, you would have sat in the rain on a wet chair and felt just as comfortable—well, different strokes for different folks.
Today, I’m quite conventional and not like “how it’s supposed to be done,” with a small canopy at the entrance, and I like it, just as much as being able to sit dry on the terrace in the rain, even wearing my plush slippers.
By the way: I walk five minutes to my composter; I can’t even imagine the 10-meter (33 feet) version on my property, sorry.
Why do you even use an umbrella? Does your body get harmed by four drops of rain? Why close the roof on a convertible when it rains?
People are different and experience things differently. Luckily. I could list a thousand things I find totally unnecessary or whining, but a) it’s none of my business and (more importantly) b) I don’t care how others do things, and if they like it, that’s fine.

ypg schrieb:

I’ll tell you: nowadays, people usually leave their furniture outside. Even in winter. Plus, cushions, decorations, and all sorts of knickknacks are outside, which can’t get wet. Then there’s the gas grill, rugs… none of that should get wet. Maybe some households still smoke on the terrace. The days when people grilled in the afternoon and then got caught by rain in the evening are now rare thanks to weather apps—you can count them on one hand. And if there’s a storm, everything under most roofs less than 3 meters (10 feet) deep will get wet anyway. Besides, having some kind of roof is necessary anyway, as it goes hand in hand with dining and children’s bathing areas, it’s just good manners. Got it?

My diagnosis from here: acute drama syndrome. Has it rained too much in Hamburg today? Oh dear, what mood are you in?
Who is this “people” you always talk about? Weather apps, smoking grills, wet cushions—is there more?

ypg schrieb:

Anything else to add, stranger?

They just brewed themselves a calming tea after their mandatory rain dance; a little sip might not hurt you either.