Hello everyone,
we are currently facing a small issue and hoped to get some suggestions and ideas from you.
Our situation is as follows:
- Our house is already built, and we are now focusing on the outdoor area.
- We have a trapezoidal-shaped plot of land.
- We planned to build a patio roof 7m (23 feet) wide, but then realized that the setback requirements also apply to the patio roof.
- According to the Bavarian Building Code (BayBO), the patio roof must be at least 3m (10 feet) away from every neighbor’s boundary (I tried to illustrate this in the screenshot).
Our question now is: what would you do in this situation to achieve reasonable shading and possibly weather protection for the terrace?
Unfortunately, the neighbor has already refused to waive the setback requirements.
We welcome all ideas, including out-of-the-box solutions!
Best regards,
Christian
we are currently facing a small issue and hoped to get some suggestions and ideas from you.
Our situation is as follows:
- Our house is already built, and we are now focusing on the outdoor area.
- We have a trapezoidal-shaped plot of land.
- We planned to build a patio roof 7m (23 feet) wide, but then realized that the setback requirements also apply to the patio roof.
- According to the Bavarian Building Code (BayBO), the patio roof must be at least 3m (10 feet) away from every neighbor’s boundary (I tried to illustrate this in the screenshot).
Our question now is: what would you do in this situation to achieve reasonable shading and possibly weather protection for the terrace?
Unfortunately, the neighbor has already refused to waive the setback requirements.
We welcome all ideas, including out-of-the-box solutions!
Best regards,
Christian
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chriscryzl1 Apr 2025 21:58@ypg Definitely a glass roof. What you can't see on the plan is that a second large window was added on the side where the terrace is, to bring more light into the interior. We definitely don’t want to lose that light again with a roof now.
chriscryzl schrieb:
What you don’t see on the plan is that a second large window has been added on the side where the terrace is located, So, you now have the entire front made of glass? Wow, from inside you will be looking straight at a pile of furniture. There will be nothing to hide behind. Especially with the trapezoid shape, I would go for some asymmetry. Cover the terrace table, then keep the lounge or deck chairs uncovered. It won’t get any easier though. Is the terrace already installed?
ypg schrieb:
Is the terrace already installed?I’m curious about that too, because as far as I know, it also has to respect the required setback distance.The question isn’t entirely clear to me either. The maximum width of the terrace roof corresponds to the maximum value between the setback areas. A terrace doesn’t have to be completely covered.
Have you read the Baybo carefully?
Many years ago, we built a terrace roof and also submitted a building permit application.
Here in Saxony, for example, a permit is not required for depths up to 3 meters (10 feet), as it is considered an extension to the house or something similar.
Since our depth is more than 3 meters (10 feet), the building permit was necessary, and the neighbors had to be informed as well.
If you only want 3 meters (10 feet), you should check again, as it might be similar in your area.
Here is another personal experience, in case your terrace faces west:
Fortunately, we have a pretty clear view toward the west. However, this means that when the sun is low in the evening, it is impossible to sit on the terrace or in the dining area of the living room at this time of year without being dazzled. For the dining area in the living room, a retractable awning on the terrace roof is sufficient, but on the terrace itself, we needed a vertical sunshade.
Since the west side is exposed to the weather, rain and snow are often blown far inside, which can damage outdoor furniture, for example. I can only recommend building the terrace roof deeper than 3 meters (10 feet).
Many years ago, we built a terrace roof and also submitted a building permit application.
Here in Saxony, for example, a permit is not required for depths up to 3 meters (10 feet), as it is considered an extension to the house or something similar.
Since our depth is more than 3 meters (10 feet), the building permit was necessary, and the neighbors had to be informed as well.
If you only want 3 meters (10 feet), you should check again, as it might be similar in your area.
Here is another personal experience, in case your terrace faces west:
Fortunately, we have a pretty clear view toward the west. However, this means that when the sun is low in the evening, it is impossible to sit on the terrace or in the dining area of the living room at this time of year without being dazzled. For the dining area in the living room, a retractable awning on the terrace roof is sufficient, but on the terrace itself, we needed a vertical sunshade.
Since the west side is exposed to the weather, rain and snow are often blown far inside, which can damage outdoor furniture, for example. I can only recommend building the terrace roof deeper than 3 meters (10 feet).
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nordanney2 Apr 2025 08:27Musketier schrieb:
If you only want 3m (10 feet), you can read about it again there, maybe it’s similar for you.It concerns the 3m (10 feet) distance to the property boundary, which must be observed in Bavaria. A depth of 3m (10 feet) is also not an issue there.I know. The question is whether the 3m (10 feet) distance to the boundary must still be maintained if no building permit / planning permission is required because these are subordinate structures.
I don’t think anyone would consider asking the neighbors if they add a glass roof as weather protection above the front door after the fact, even if this reduces the distance to the boundary to less than 3m (10 feet).
I don’t think anyone would consider asking the neighbors if they add a glass roof as weather protection above the front door after the fact, even if this reduces the distance to the boundary to less than 3m (10 feet).
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