ᐅ Technical Construction of Ikea BESTA Cabinet Frame (502.459.53)
Created on: 17 Sep 2016 07:34
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alsk1Hello dear Ikea community,
I urgently need help with the technical construction of the Ikea Besta carcass (502.459.53) in 1.20 x 40 x 64 cm (47 x 16 x 25 inches). This is not the TV carcass, but the regular one.
I have assembled this as a chest of drawers and also placed it on feet. On top there is a glass panel, and on top of that sits a rather heavy stereo system made up of individual Hi-Fi components from the Sony ES series from 1992/1993, with a total weight of about 50 kg (110 lbs). So far, this is not a problem at all.
Now I want to place speaker stands on the left and right next to the chest of drawers. Due to space constraints, the stands need to be quite close to the chest. The distance between the feet from front to back is less than 40 cm (16 inches), as the carcass is only 40 cm (16 inches) deep overall. The speaker stands that actually belong to the speakers (and in my opinion look very nice) have a base plate depth of 40 cm (16 inches). Since the stands need to be close to the chest of drawers, the base plate has to protrude slightly underneath the chest, which poses a problem.
I then thought of simply moving the feet of the Besta carcass a little further inward so that it looks reasonably good visually. I was thinking maybe 8-10 cm (3-4 inches). By "moving inward," I mean that the feet would be positioned slightly further toward the center when looking at the chest from the front. This way, the base plate of the speaker stands could extend somewhat under the chest, leaving enough space. I hope you can picture what I mean?
My question now is about the technical construction of the bottom panel. There are, as per factory assembly, 5 threaded inserts for the feet in the bottom panel: one foot at each corner and one threaded insert additionally in the front center. These threaded inserts are built into the bottom panel to mount the feet.
I assume that there are chipboard strips, wooden battens, or similar inside the carcass where these threads are embedded. I am unsure whether these are continuous chipboard strips or just short sections, and how they run—either across the width (meaning along the length of approx. 120 cm (47 inches)) or from front to back (approx. 40 cm (16 inches)).
If these run from left to right (i.e., across the width of 120 cm (47 inches)), it should be possible to simply insert new threaded sleeves more toward the center, and thus my plan would be successful, right?
Or is the factory mounting point of the threaded insert reinforced in some other way? I am somewhat concerned that if I insert a new sleeve, the bottom panel might break when I load the chest or place my heavy Hi-Fi components on top, because perhaps the bottom panel is only specially reinforced at the factory threading points for the feet?
Another alternative would certainly be to make a properly thick MDF panel or similar in the dimensions of the bottom panel and mount the feet on it, basically placing the chest on that. However, for simplicity reasons, I would prefer to go with the first option.
I urgently need help with the technical construction of the Ikea Besta carcass (502.459.53) in 1.20 x 40 x 64 cm (47 x 16 x 25 inches). This is not the TV carcass, but the regular one.
I have assembled this as a chest of drawers and also placed it on feet. On top there is a glass panel, and on top of that sits a rather heavy stereo system made up of individual Hi-Fi components from the Sony ES series from 1992/1993, with a total weight of about 50 kg (110 lbs). So far, this is not a problem at all.
Now I want to place speaker stands on the left and right next to the chest of drawers. Due to space constraints, the stands need to be quite close to the chest. The distance between the feet from front to back is less than 40 cm (16 inches), as the carcass is only 40 cm (16 inches) deep overall. The speaker stands that actually belong to the speakers (and in my opinion look very nice) have a base plate depth of 40 cm (16 inches). Since the stands need to be close to the chest of drawers, the base plate has to protrude slightly underneath the chest, which poses a problem.
I then thought of simply moving the feet of the Besta carcass a little further inward so that it looks reasonably good visually. I was thinking maybe 8-10 cm (3-4 inches). By "moving inward," I mean that the feet would be positioned slightly further toward the center when looking at the chest from the front. This way, the base plate of the speaker stands could extend somewhat under the chest, leaving enough space. I hope you can picture what I mean?
My question now is about the technical construction of the bottom panel. There are, as per factory assembly, 5 threaded inserts for the feet in the bottom panel: one foot at each corner and one threaded insert additionally in the front center. These threaded inserts are built into the bottom panel to mount the feet.
I assume that there are chipboard strips, wooden battens, or similar inside the carcass where these threads are embedded. I am unsure whether these are continuous chipboard strips or just short sections, and how they run—either across the width (meaning along the length of approx. 120 cm (47 inches)) or from front to back (approx. 40 cm (16 inches)).
If these run from left to right (i.e., across the width of 120 cm (47 inches)), it should be possible to simply insert new threaded sleeves more toward the center, and thus my plan would be successful, right?
Or is the factory mounting point of the threaded insert reinforced in some other way? I am somewhat concerned that if I insert a new sleeve, the bottom panel might break when I load the chest or place my heavy Hi-Fi components on top, because perhaps the bottom panel is only specially reinforced at the factory threading points for the feet?
Another alternative would certainly be to make a properly thick MDF panel or similar in the dimensions of the bottom panel and mount the feet on it, basically placing the chest on that. However, for simplicity reasons, I would prefer to go with the first option.
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IKEA-Experte17 Sep 2016 10:57Hello,
BESTA is made from board-on-stiles construction. On page 6, you can see how it is manufactured.
buerkle-GmbH.de/uploads/Media/leichtbauplattenproduktion_72dpi_20.pdf
However, this still doesn’t clarify whether the strips run lengthwise or crosswise. I would suggest drilling a 2mm (0.08 inch) hole from underneath and checking if it’s hollow or solid. You should also get an idea of the material coming out while drilling.
BESTA is made from board-on-stiles construction. On page 6, you can see how it is manufactured.
buerkle-GmbH.de/uploads/Media/leichtbauplattenproduktion_72dpi_20.pdf
However, this still doesn’t clarify whether the strips run lengthwise or crosswise. I would suggest drilling a 2mm (0.08 inch) hole from underneath and checking if it’s hollow or solid. You should also get an idea of the material coming out while drilling.
Hello!
Thank you very much for the information! That already helps me a bit... It's interesting to see how it is produced.
So theoretically, it would be possible to carry out my plan. It depends on whether the boards on the inside run in the right direction. But theoretically, it should be a frame, since individual slats on their own wouldn’t hold up or provide any stability.
Thank you very much for the information! That already helps me a bit... It's interesting to see how it is produced.
So theoretically, it would be possible to carry out my plan. It depends on whether the boards on the inside run in the right direction. But theoretically, it should be a frame, since individual slats on their own wouldn’t hold up or provide any stability.
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IKEA-Experte17 Sep 2016 17:54If there were a frame, it would be a board-on-frame like, for example, in KALLAX.
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IKEA-Experte18 Sep 2016 13:11A frame within a panel is not necessary. When the bottom and sides are assembled, the "stiles" form a frame that transfers the loads to the base.
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