ᐅ Technical room in the attic, issues with soundproofing?

Created on: 15 Apr 2020 10:02
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Andraho
Hello everyone,
I need your help. We are planning a semi-detached house with 2 full stories and technical equipment in the attic space (most likely a heat pump, gas condensing boiler, controlled ventilation system with heat recovery, and air conditioning). Due to the floor plan, there is no other option. The rooms below the technical area are bedrooms. Access to the attic will probably only be via a retractable ladder.

Now I am concerned about access to the technical equipment, especially in case of replacement, as well as noise insulation.

I know it’s not ideal. My question is whether any of you have experience with such a setup and can offer me some advice.

Thanks and best regards,
Andreas
Mycraft15 Apr 2020 19:41
superzapp schrieb:

As a solution, we have planned a somewhat unusual idea (not yet implemented but approved by the building authority / planning office)
External technical building

I should have done the same in our case. Unfortunately, I realized this too late.
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Andraho
15 Apr 2020 19:42
I find the idea of the external building appealing; I would need to check if it is feasible in terms of space.
Golfi9015 Apr 2020 21:43
We have an insulated wooden floor ceiling.
On top of it stands a 300-liter (79 gallons) hot water tank.
The ventilation system and gas heating are also located in the attic. These are mounted on a wall made of tongue-and-groove boards, which I built between two roof beams.
We have now been living in the house for two weeks, and you can’t hear a thing! Even though I am very sensitive to noise...
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Pianist
16 Apr 2020 07:01
Andraho schrieb:

(presumably heat pump, gas condensing boiler system, controlled ventilation with heat recovery, air conditioning).

Wouldn't it be better to design the house in a way that most of these systems are not necessary?
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Andraho
16 Apr 2020 07:31
Pianist schrieb:

Wouldn't it be better to design the house so that most of it isn't necessary?
What is your suggestion?
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Pianist
16 Apr 2020 08:06
From my perspective, recently too much emphasis has been placed on insulation and too little on thermal mass. If you build the house using materials with good heat storage capacity, such as expanded clay aggregate (Liapor), and maybe construct a solid brick roof, the indoor temperature won’t drop immediately in winter when you ventilate thoroughly, and in summer you won’t need air conditioning. It should also be possible to size a heat pump (are you thinking more about deep ground drilling or horizontal collectors?) in a way that completely eliminates the need for a gas connection and a chimney. Personally, I would prefer a wall heating system over underfloor heating in that case, but of course, that is a matter of taste. And of course, the electricity for it should come from the roof.

So, in my opinion, even though I am a fan of technology, it shouldn’t be overdone in the house. Everything costs a lot of money, requires maintenance, can break down frequently, and you end up constantly chasing every trend, trying to solve the problems caused by the previous technology with even more technology. Not a good development...

Ideally, you only need photovoltaic panels on the roof and a heat pump with either deep drilling or horizontal collectors. Everything else should be handled by physics alone. In summer, the system can also operate in reverse mode.

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