ᐅ Multi-function switches without smart home integration?

Created on: 28 Jun 2020 15:51
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Nicon1001
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Nicon1001
28 Jun 2020 15:51
Hello everyone,

Originally, the plan was to avoid smart home technology in the new build. I find it interesting, but I probably can’t afford or won’t want to invest in it.
I already have an initial quote from the electrician (just under 15,000).
He would install a separate switch for each roller shutter and light outlet. However, since I want the shutter switches by the door and not by the window, I imagine it would look unattractive if, for example, there are five switches side by side at the dining/living room door.
Now I have heard about switches that have multiple functions. For example, a short press turns on the light, a swipe up raises the roller shutter.
Does that automatically mean it’s smart home and extremely expensive?
Other than that, we wanted a motion sensor in the upstairs hallway, two dimmable lamps in the dining/living room, and one access point per floor.
Is it possible to do this without having to install a full smart home system?
Are there any alternatives for my situation?

Thanks in advance
Knöpfchen28 Jun 2020 23:09
I haven’t found the famous all-in-one solution yet.
Just a group switch for several or even all shutters at the door, and for each window the corresponding blind switch, would also be an option.
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hampshire
28 Jun 2020 23:40
If you are not too price-sensitive, there are great options available.
Five switches can look really nice, for example if they are from Gi Gambarelli in a porcelain/stainless steel combination.
Toggle switches can be placed closer together in a panel. This can look great but would be a custom solution.
You can also control the roller shutters via radio modules in a sub-distribution panel. In that case, you will have at least one remote control, which is quite cost-effective.
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Nicon1001
29 Jun 2020 07:08
Knöpfchen schrieb:

I still haven’t found the famous all-in-one solution.
A group switch for several or even all roller shutters by the door, and an individual blind switch at each window would also be an option.

Hmm, I think if I place individual switches next to the windows, I might as well install manual straps.

It probably looks more like a minimal KNX installation, since the radio solution with remote control doesn’t sound that great either.
Mycraft29 Jun 2020 08:39
Nicon1001 schrieb:

I find it unattractive when, for example, five switches are lined up next to each other on the door in the dining/living room.
You’re right; it always looks inconsistent, especially in a new build. Many people have a vehicle parked outside the door that can talk and park itself, yet inside the four walls, the electrical installation feels like a step back in time.
Nicon1001 schrieb:

I’ve heard about switches that have multiple functions. For example, a short tap = lights on, swipe up = blinds up. Does that automatically mean it’s smart home and very expensive?
No, that has nothing to do with a “smart home” or intelligent building. It’s like a remote control for the TV, but here it operates lights and blinds instead. However, just having those switches isn’t enough; these are usually proprietary solutions from manufacturers. Besides the switches, you also need the other components that are controlled by them—that is, a sensor/actuator combination.
Nicon1001 schrieb:

Can this be done without installing a smart home system?
You don’t install a smart home at once. A smart home evolves when you install sensors and actuators and connect them meaningfully, essentially giving the house eyes and ears and teaching it what to do—or not do. This way it can react and respond to the environment and the people inside.

Simply having as many little boxes on the walls and plug-in adapters with a colorful app does not make a smart home.
Nicon1001 schrieb:

Sounds more like a minimal KNX installation, because the wireless solution with remote control doesn’t seem very appealing either.
Wireless technology has no place in a new build anyway.