Hello everyone,
I would like to share our current house planning and hear/read your ideas.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 436 m² (4700 sq ft)
Slope: no, flat
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: n/a
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: free on the plot, only 3m (10 ft) distance required
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof shape: anything allowed from 20°
Architectural style: free
Orientation:
Maximum height / limits: 11m (36 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: classic, gable roof (45°)
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 2.5 (number 2 is planned and desired)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: see floor plan
Office: family use or home office? Home office (work from home)
Overnight guests per year: approx. 15-20
Open or closed architecture: relatively open
Conservative or modern construction: modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, no island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: later
Music / stereo wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, but type unclear. Possibly a single carport to be expanded into a garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: classic tomato and strawberry bed
Other wishes / special features / daily routine: due to home working, spatial separation is essential. My wife sometimes works night shifts, so being able to sleep during the day is necessary.
House Design
Who designed the plan: “off the shelf,” own ideas
What do you like most? The 4 rooms on the upper floor, the open living/dining/kitchen area
What do you dislike? the current upstairs floor plan
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system: currently air-to-water heat pump, but not fixed
If you had to give up details / extensions:
- can give up: garage/carport
- cannot give up: basement, home office, pantry
In our own planning, we have designed the doors to the office and bathroom on the ground floor to be 1m (39 inches) wide to ensure accessibility.
We are still unsure about the large window front in the living room.
For the upper floor, we will shortly receive another floor plan (from a show home) that we like much better.
I am very curious about your feedback on our ground floor planning and whether you have any suggestions for the upper floor.
If you have questions about the notes, just ask.
Best regards,
Robin
I would like to share our current house planning and hear/read your ideas.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 436 m² (4700 sq ft)
Slope: no, flat
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: n/a
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: free on the plot, only 3m (10 ft) distance required
Edge development
Number of parking spaces: 2 parking spaces
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof shape: anything allowed from 20°
Architectural style: free
Orientation:
Maximum height / limits: 11m (36 ft)
Other requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: classic, gable roof (45°)
Basement, floors: basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, ages: 36, 35, 2.5 (number 2 is planned and desired)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: see floor plan
Office: family use or home office? Home office (work from home)
Overnight guests per year: approx. 15-20
Open or closed architecture: relatively open
Conservative or modern construction: modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, no island
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: later
Music / stereo wall:
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes, but type unclear. Possibly a single carport to be expanded into a garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: classic tomato and strawberry bed
Other wishes / special features / daily routine: due to home working, spatial separation is essential. My wife sometimes works night shifts, so being able to sleep during the day is necessary.
House Design
Who designed the plan: “off the shelf,” own ideas
What do you like most? The 4 rooms on the upper floor, the open living/dining/kitchen area
What do you dislike? the current upstairs floor plan
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system: currently air-to-water heat pump, but not fixed
If you had to give up details / extensions:
- can give up: garage/carport
- cannot give up: basement, home office, pantry
In our own planning, we have designed the doors to the office and bathroom on the ground floor to be 1m (39 inches) wide to ensure accessibility.
We are still unsure about the large window front in the living room.
For the upper floor, we will shortly receive another floor plan (from a show home) that we like much better.
I am very curious about your feedback on our ground floor planning and whether you have any suggestions for the upper floor.
If you have questions about the notes, just ask.
Best regards,
Robin
zod schrieb:
ypg what’s going on with you lately; read two threads, got two curt replies from you You can take a look at my other 5099+ replies.
Whether something is curt is probably subjective.
What annoys me is when someone tries to explain how things work to me, despite my 30 years of experience, while nothing has been properly thought through.
Sorry, what bothers me more is the wasted time I spend on this in my free time.
@ypg I can understand that, especially if you have followed the recent floor plan discussions. An inadequate design drawing is submitted, and only approval is expected. On the other hand, obvious planning flaws are defended. This just can’t work. In my view, it fails to achieve the main purpose of such discussions, which is to benefit from the ideas and experiences of local homeowners.
Wow, I’m impressed.
I explain something and ask about certain things that are simply unclear to me or too simplistic, and immediately a big wave of reactions starts.
I did not ask for approval, nor did I defend anything. However, it is not very constructive to dismiss everything as rubbish, bad, or wrong without any explanation. Also, no one is forced to contribute here; everything is done voluntarily.
Finally, assumptions and speculations are being made about things and people you don’t know. Perhaps it’s worth reflecting on that a bit.
I wish everyone a pleasant day.
I explain something and ask about certain things that are simply unclear to me or too simplistic, and immediately a big wave of reactions starts.
I did not ask for approval, nor did I defend anything. However, it is not very constructive to dismiss everything as rubbish, bad, or wrong without any explanation. Also, no one is forced to contribute here; everything is done voluntarily.
Finally, assumptions and speculations are being made about things and people you don’t know. Perhaps it’s worth reflecting on that a bit.
I wish everyone a pleasant day.
… well – sorry – if you consider a 120cm (47 inches) wide pantry as “sufficient” without even asking what width experienced builders and homeowners consider adequate, then you shouldn’t be surprised by the reaction.
And yes, 120cm (47 inches) is too narrow! We have 135cm (53 inches) – and I can assure you, that is the absolute minimum – even then it’s difficult to replace a refrigeration unit.
I am always surprised that people who think they already know everything still take the trouble to post their floor plans here *ponders*.
Half-turned staircases like that require you to maneuver bedroom furniture up and down first.
A basement without windows? I wouldn’t want that – in our house, every basement room has a window.
Laundry room in the basement? In my own house? And having to go two flights of stairs up and down all the time? What good is “barrier-free” then?
A 12sqm (130 sq ft) bedroom will never be barrier-free for two people; it might work for one person at most – and the other one has to carry all the clothes and bedding from somewhere else. There’s hardly any storage space possible in such a situation.
Is a living space with so little window area even allowed by your local building permit / planning permission? Why don’t you put the living room in a basement room if no windows are desired there (probably because of a home theater)? …
And yes, 120cm (47 inches) is too narrow! We have 135cm (53 inches) – and I can assure you, that is the absolute minimum – even then it’s difficult to replace a refrigeration unit.
I am always surprised that people who think they already know everything still take the trouble to post their floor plans here *ponders*.
Half-turned staircases like that require you to maneuver bedroom furniture up and down first.
A basement without windows? I wouldn’t want that – in our house, every basement room has a window.
Laundry room in the basement? In my own house? And having to go two flights of stairs up and down all the time? What good is “barrier-free” then?
A 12sqm (130 sq ft) bedroom will never be barrier-free for two people; it might work for one person at most – and the other one has to carry all the clothes and bedding from somewhere else. There’s hardly any storage space possible in such a situation.
Is a living space with so little window area even allowed by your local building permit / planning permission? Why don’t you put the living room in a basement room if no windows are desired there (probably because of a home theater)? …
Nofret schrieb:
.. well – sorry – if you consider a 120cm (47 inch) wide pantry to be ‘sufficient’ without asking what width experienced builders and homeowners consider appropriate, then you shouldn’t be surprised by the reaction.
And yes, 120cm (47 inch) is too narrow! We have 135cm (53 inch) – and I can assure you, that’s the absolute minimum – even then, it’s difficult to replace a cooling appliance.Thank you! This is a constructive way to put it instead of simply saying “it’s rubbish.” I’ve already taken this into account.
Regarding “barrier-free”: okay, admittedly it’s not fully accessible, or only to a limited extent. And I hope I never have to rely on that.
Nofret schrieb:
Basement without windows? I wouldn’t want that – in our house every basement room has a window.In the utility/storage room I don’t need a window. One of the rooms is purely for storage; the window would be blocked anyway. We are still considering it for the laundry room and the larger basement room.
Nofret schrieb:
Half-spiral stairs like those mean you have to maneuver bedroom furniture up and down first.Thanks for the warning, but I don’t plan to move furniture up and down every week. In my previous moves, I’ve dealt with much narrower staircases.
Nofret schrieb:
Laundry room in the basement? In my own house?More people are involved in the decisions than just me. But personally, I consider those two machines something I wouldn’t want to keep upstairs.
I’d like to clarify one more thing: I don’t expect anyone to draw floor plans or anything like that for me, but I think we can at least have a factual discussion about it. Simply saying “this is rubbish” doesn’t help. As mentioned several times, constructive input is great and I appreciate it. I’m not defending anything; I’m explaining why I designed or planned something the way I did.
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