ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof

Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.

We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂

Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!

Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.

Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide

Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
  • Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
  • Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
  • Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
  • Office preferably with garden access

House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner

What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area

What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?

Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump

If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)

Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above

Floor plan of a house with garage, office, hallway, kitchen and open living area.


Floor plan of the upper floor with hallway, bathroom, dressing room, master bedroom, 2 children’s rooms, office/reading area.


Cross-section through a multi-storey house with staircase, roof structure, and foundation.


Hand sketch of a floor plan: house with kitchen, living room, terrace and double garage.


Site plan of a housing development with yellow streets, red residential areas, and legend on the right.
K a t j a7 Nov 2022 16:40
ypg schrieb:

When you look at the Cypress Avenue house from Gussek Haus and open the office, you get a seating area, very simple 😉
And the original poster then moved the seating area into the "nest box" ... something like that 🙂
But you can hardly place the nest box on the gable. That’s why I’m confused. Is it only about the seating window, the flat roof bay window, or both?

Since you want to reduce the space by another 10 sqm (108 sq ft), that makes things even more difficult. What are you willing to give up?
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epinephrin
7 Nov 2022 16:57
ypg schrieb:

Then please tell us why! What makes that a birdhouse at all? Why does someone have to sit in this bay window? Please explain so we can understand.

I actually like this upper floor bay window mainly for its exterior appearance. I think that with a cladding (wood, façade panel) and a flat roof, the classic gable roof can look a bit more modern. Apart from that, I wanted a window seat somewhere in the house and thought this would be a good opportunity to combine the two. That was the original idea.

@K a t j a At first, the children's rooms each shared half of the bay window and had no recesses. The window seat was simply next to the staircase on the gable side. I don’t even remember exactly why we changed it.
K a t j a schrieb:

How important is this corner arrangement of kitchen and living area? It’s not that it’s bad, but is it essential?

It’s not essential. If we find another solution to avoid looking directly from the couch into the messy kitchen, I am open to any compromise. 🙂
We could most easily do without the stairs (and I would also accept a window seat on the ground floor). The current floor plan is about 176 sqm (almost 1900 sq ft), which is certainly a good size; smaller than about 165 sqm (almost 1800 sq ft) would probably be difficult because we need a home office.
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epinephrin
7 Nov 2022 17:02
I definitely thank you very much for the patience and the suggestions! My mind is currently blank when it comes to solutions or new approaches. :-(
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Ysop***
7 Nov 2022 17:23
So, when it comes to the bay window, is it more of a gimmick, or do you actually plan to use it? I can only believe that its placement doesn't matter if the main reason is that you saw it on Pinterest or Instagram and now want one too. In case of doubt, I would remove such gimmicks if they interfere with function or budget. I understand you, appearance is important to me too, but it does have its limits.

Have you already been to the K. Forum? 🙂
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epinephrin
7 Nov 2022 17:38
Ysop*** schrieb:

So, the bay window is more of a gimmick, or do you actually plan to use it? I can only believe it doesn’t matter where it’s placed if the only reason for having it is that you saw it on Pinterest or Instagram and now want it too. If in doubt, I would remove such gimmicks if they interfere with function or budget. I understand you—appearance is important to me too, but it has its limits.

Have you already visited the K. Foru.m? 🙂

I would actually want to use it. Since I see myself mostly on the terrace on the ground floor, the idea came up for the upper floor in case of bad weather. But I don’t want it on the upper floor at any cost. I haven’t managed to get to the K. Foru.m in terms of time, apart from registering.
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ypg
7 Nov 2022 17:53
epinephrin schrieb:

I definitely appreciate the patience and suggestions! At the moment, my mind is blank when it comes to solutions or new approaches. :-(
Oh, there are so many approaches and new ideas. You don’t have to reinvent the house for that, just take a look at the staircase.
epinephrin schrieb:

I would actually like to use it too.
epinephrin schrieb:

So far, I haven’t had time to reach the K. For.um beyond registering.
It’s still too early for that. You have an unsatisfactory house design after your changes. There’s still room for improvement 🙂