ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof
Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
- Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
- Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
- Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
- Office preferably with garden access
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
epinephrin schrieb:
We were offered 10 square meters (108 square feet) of additional living space for 17,000 EUR...I would commission that sight unseen 10 times 😀
epinephrin schrieb:
10 sqm (108 sq ft) of additional living space was offered to us for 17,000 EUR.I would gladly take that twice, with a wink, for 30,000 EUR.
epinephrin schrieb:
We have initially budgeted around 10-12k for the staircase. That doesn’t mean it can’t be simpler, though. A staircase primarily serves one purpose: to allow residents to move on foot between floors. What additional expectations do you have for a staircase, and how would you prioritize them?
a) to transform it from a simple functional element into a walkable sculpture and a sensory experience
b) to bring a touch of Hollywood glamour to Mettmann
c) to impress the Hoppenstedts we know from our theater subscription
d) to give the staircase builder a chance to showcase their full skill set
There must be some reason why the staircase is meant to act as a charm against the banality of mediocrity.
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epinephrin20 Feb 2023 22:27K a t j a schrieb:
Then it would be interesting to know what exactly is included in the additional construction costs when the landscaping is already listed under the kitchen. For us, it was mainly fees. They were considerable but not 50K.
Otherwise, prevention is of course better than dealing with problems later.
Maybe you should have your financial plan reviewed much more carefully soon.
What would be really unfortunate is to have 40K left over afterward and find that the dining area is actually too small. Yes, maybe we calculated more cautiously because everyone warns that it always gets more expensive. And because the garage is currently on hold.
We actually included the incidental purchase costs for the plot in the additional construction costs (notary, land registry), as well as soil survey, surveying, temporary power and water supply, insurance, foundation padding, and connections up to the plot, somewhat generously, since these can’t be calculated precisely yet.
Overall, we already have a fairly detailed cost calculation in Excel. To make it more accurate soon, we have appointments this week with the kitchen fitter, stair builder, and flooring supplier.
So you think we should consider going for the 10 sqm (100 sq ft) for 17K (…), 🙂 That way, at least 5 sqm (50 sq ft) could be allocated more comfortably to the dining area, and we would probably still skip the covered entrance and add that space to the utility room, which could add another 4–5 sqm (40–50 sq ft). Would anyone have an idea where to place the front door then, or should access to the utility room still be through the kitchen—for example, for beverage storage—or rather from the entrance/hallway area?
epinephrin schrieb:
or rather from the entrance/hallway area?Utility room access through the hallway area, you don’t want workers passing through the hallway, living room, and kitchen to get to the utility room.
Replace the utility room window with a patio door instead.
At our place, the contractor’s van with the side door open is parked right outside the tiled utility room, and laundry goes directly out to the drying area.
Just some reasons from our experience.
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hausbauer_9322 Feb 2023 21:27I haven’t read through all the feedback yet, but I’m going to share my own comments based on the draft on page 15 (I think it was page 15?).
The living area feels huge, empty, and wasted to me. Also, even with the laundry chute, I would still want to carry the washed laundry through the kitchen. The utility room is too narrow and small for that purpose. Unfortunately, utility rooms are often underestimated nowadays, and people tend to cram everything into them. Then they cut off a square meter or so to save space.
Are you planning a storage room under the stairs?
The kitchen seems far too small to me – definitely don’t cut corners there. You spend so much time in the kitchen. Or will there be an extension of the kitchen on the side where the toilet is? That is, behind the dining table. In that case, the niche should be at least 60cm (24 inches). Still, the countertop space is very limited.
I like the upstairs layout. However, I don’t really see any functional use for the gallery, so I would actually consider planning a laundry room upstairs and doing the washing there since laundry mostly accumulates on the upper floor.
The living area feels huge, empty, and wasted to me. Also, even with the laundry chute, I would still want to carry the washed laundry through the kitchen. The utility room is too narrow and small for that purpose. Unfortunately, utility rooms are often underestimated nowadays, and people tend to cram everything into them. Then they cut off a square meter or so to save space.
Are you planning a storage room under the stairs?
The kitchen seems far too small to me – definitely don’t cut corners there. You spend so much time in the kitchen. Or will there be an extension of the kitchen on the side where the toilet is? That is, behind the dining table. In that case, the niche should be at least 60cm (24 inches). Still, the countertop space is very limited.
I like the upstairs layout. However, I don’t really see any functional use for the gallery, so I would actually consider planning a laundry room upstairs and doing the washing there since laundry mostly accumulates on the upper floor.
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