ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof
Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
- Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
- Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
- Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
- Office preferably with garden access
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
epinephrin schrieb:
Does the kitchen studio know how wide the wall needs to be at minimum for 6x60 cabinets, so I can refer to that when talking to the architect?I have already answered that. For 360 cm (12 feet) of cabinets, you should plan at least 2.5 cm (1 inch) of paneling on each side. So, a total installation width of 365 cm (12 feet) is needed. That means you should add at least 3 cm (1.2 inches) extra for the rough construction measurement.Floor-to-ceiling height... your ceiling is planned with an average height of 20 cm (8 inches).
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xMisterDx18 Feb 2023 22:46Gregor_K schrieb:
It certainly depends on the individual case, but I wanted to avoid carrying over any legacy issues into the house layout. The design should basically always be based on the needs rather than the current furniture.I would say the planning should primarily be based on the financial possibilities 😉
epinephrin schrieb:
The issue with the table depth is correct; I had hoped that reducing the length by 40cm (16 inches) would bring a significant advantage. 🙂 So, the version without the glass door probably isn’t much better, since it doesn’t change the depth, right?
I do think that without the door there is significantly more space. The access to the bathroom is also more elegant that way, though not necessarily more practical. To be honest, I don’t think the floor plan is bad, but there are too many small details that add up to a minor source of frustration. What bothers me most is the utility room access through the kitchen or living areas. Then there’s the tight dining area, which only works if the living room isn’t closed off by a glass door. The tiny bathroom door, the cramped sofa, the limited kitchen space, and ultimately the somewhat too large hallway for a house of this size.
That’s too many small compromises for me.
By the way, why are there always two measurements for the square meter area on the ground floor? Can someone briefly explain that to me?
epinephrin schrieb:
Regarding the staircase, we will be visiting the staircase manufacturer next week because we decided to remove this trade from the general contractor and arrange it ourselves.Please tell me this is a joke. There’s a reason why the box where you found this idea is labeled “Things you should never do”!epinephrin schrieb:
How can I find out what the finished floor-to-floor height will be?You can’t. Stay out of it. The architect should plan the staircase (including detailed planning!!!), and hopefully that’s a professional architect without quotation marks. If there is a general contractor (GC) involved, the staircase is part of their scope of work, and if necessary, a mutually agreed staircase builder should be engaged as their subcontractor. You should NEVER contract the staircase separately in a GC project, Mrs. Sophie!Gregor_K schrieb:
I think I even read in this forum that you should try not to plan around old furniture.Gregor_K schrieb:
I wanted to avoid carrying any old legacies into the house layout.At the very least, only a fool designs their house around furniture that will only have about four years of remaining useful life. Most first-time homebuilders come from rented apartments with multiple floors — a change that almost always leads to changes in furniture buying habits. So, you should not just assume your past habits will carry into the future.K a t j a schrieb:
What bothers me most is having the utility room accessible through the kitchen or living areas.Not me, not for a cent. I tend to see that as practical instead.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
Not for five cents, I would rather consider that practical.Carrying the laundry through the kitchen? That actually makes me question whether you’re really an expert in managing the regular washing needs of a family of four. 😉K a t j a schrieb:
Carrying the laundry through the kitchen?No, the dirty laundry goes down the chute, and you don’t have to carry it back out while cooking.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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