ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof
Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
- Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
- Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
- Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
- Office preferably with garden access
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
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epinephrin8 Nov 2022 21:19kbt09 schrieb:
Ah, ok, thanks ... it’s a matter of taste.
I noticed the windows on the upper floor again. You’re planning with a knee wall height of 200 cm (79 inches).
That’s why the sill height is only 76 cm (30 inches), to allow for window glass area. The window recess itself will end at about 170 cm (67 inches) in height, then the roller shutter. The glazed area will probably end at a maximum height of about 160 cm (63 inches) after deducting the frame, and will likely have an overall height of around 75 to 80 cm (30 to 31 inches).
You have to like that style. For me, these kinds of windows always give a bit of a "basement feeling." So it’s something to consider.
@K a t j a … again lightning fast … everything fits except the staircase right by the front door 😉. Yes, we’re already aware of that. That’s why we’ve now decided to go with a 2 m (79 inches) knee wall instead of 1.80 m (71 inches), so it’s not quite so extreme. I also quickly get a basement feeling, even though I’m only 1.60 m (5'3") tall. But I also think it’s not ideal to give up windows for that. Maybe two full stories could be considered, if it doesn’t look too bulky...
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epinephrin8 Nov 2022 21:40ypg schrieb:
The question I have about the open staircase is that _open_ can mean quite a few things: open at the top, open underneath, open without risers... so @epinephrin should probably weigh in on that 🙂First, I want to sincerely thank you all for your thoughts! I no longer feel so overwhelmed by this topic and will take a closer look at each of your suggestions! 🙂 By open staircase, I mean one that isn’t enclosed by walls on both sides or blocked off underneath by a storage closet. I would like the steps to be clearly recognizable as such, so it doesn’t feel (to me) oppressive. By now, I believe any staircase can be made attractive. Even one enclosed by walls, as long as at least some natural daylight reaches it.
K a t j a schrieb:
I’ll summarize:
Freestanding bathtub
No winding staircase
Window seat in a flat-roof dormer
Walk-in closet
Home office
Open staircase (still to be defined)
Guest bathroom with shower
These are all requests that enlarge the floor plan. But the original poster wants to build 10 square meters less. So something will have to be cut.So, regarding cuts... - freestanding bathtub: to me that means it’s not surrounded by a tiled enclosure, and that the oval tub is clearly recognizable as such. It can be placed against a wall, not floating in the room
- no winding staircase: any stairs are fine, just please no steps with varying tread widths 😎
- open staircase: see my post above (no storage room underneath), I could still accept it being enclosed by walls
- window seat in dormer: a window seat can be anywhere – I just thought to kill two birds with one stone ;-)
- walk-in closet: not mandatory if there is enough space in the bedroom for wardrobe space totaling about 3.50m (11.5 ft)
- home office: needed because of remote work
- guest bathroom with/without shower (the idea of having a shower is due to missing a children’s bathroom; omitting it would not be a problem)
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epinephrin8 Nov 2022 22:29I really like the first floor plan from @kbt09 and @ypg, as well as Katja’s platform variation. The pantry and laundry room appeal to me; we will test whether all the cabinets will fit in the bedroom with the large bed, without a walk-in closet. I will definitely keep you updated on how things progress!
epinephrin schrieb:
I really like the first floor plan from @kbt09 Since this example is only around 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft), there’s still some room to adjust the length and width. That would also create a bit more space in the utility room. The walk-in closet currently has about 300 cm (10 feet) of wardrobe space and an additional 300 cm (10 feet) of reduced-depth wardrobe. I still find the floor plan quite appealing, especially considering it dates back to 2018 😉. All three versions still seem to fit your situation pretty well to me. My main focus is usually the kitchen, kitchen/dining area, etc. … I come from another forum focused on kitchens 😉 ... and in all three layouts, I still support the proposed kitchen setup.
One thing to check with a floor plan that is wider than it is deep is the garage position. The location plan doesn’t clearly show the exact building envelope.
Here are a few examples from the catalog that could easily be adapted to suit your needs.
The Heidi model by Regnauer is listed with 177 m² (12.50 m x 9 m / 41 ft x 30 ft) (street on the top of the plan). The problem here is the missing utility room. It could be possible to move the guest WC to the other side and make the office slightly narrower.
The Medley 3.0 by Fingerhaus (street at the bottom of the plan). With 172.73 m² (11.05 m x 9.25 m / 36 ft x 30 ft), I find it almost perfect, if you accept the openness. The utility room/guest WC complex could swap places with the office, and you can place it exactly like that.
The Rosenheim by Sonnleitner (street on the left of the plan) is similar in concept to the Medley — but the kitchen with pantry is in a different location. The office separation is already indicated. The open space becomes a window seat, and the children’s and parents’ areas on the upper floor swap places.
The Heidi model by Regnauer is listed with 177 m² (12.50 m x 9 m / 41 ft x 30 ft) (street on the top of the plan). The problem here is the missing utility room. It could be possible to move the guest WC to the other side and make the office slightly narrower.
The Medley 3.0 by Fingerhaus (street at the bottom of the plan). With 172.73 m² (11.05 m x 9.25 m / 36 ft x 30 ft), I find it almost perfect, if you accept the openness. The utility room/guest WC complex could swap places with the office, and you can place it exactly like that.
The Rosenheim by Sonnleitner (street on the left of the plan) is similar in concept to the Medley — but the kitchen with pantry is in a different location. The office separation is already indicated. The open space becomes a window seat, and the children’s and parents’ areas on the upper floor swap places.
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