ᐅ Experiences with Energy Cloud Services versus Feed-in Tariffs?
Created on: 27 Aug 2020 13:00
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Micha8589
Hello dear forum members,
Our house construction plans were significantly disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic, but you have to accept the trade-offs when pursuing something important. The good thing is we had enough time to calculate all the options and actually decided to give up our original plan of a gas boiler plus solar thermal system, as a heat pump combined with solar panels turns out to be more cost-effective over 20 years.
The current plan is:
Solid construction house, 148m2 (Kalksandstein – a type of calcium silicate brick – up to the roof ridge plus facing brick)
Air-source heat pump (Junkers Compress 7400)
Photovoltaic system plus battery storage (no provider chosen yet)
Our builder recently received an offer from Senec that includes a cloud tariff. It sounds great on paper, but both I and our builder are somewhat skeptical and are currently researching and calculating further. Unfortunately, I’ve also found contradictory information online.
Is the cloud system worthwhile, or is the classic system with feed-in tariff better?
What do you think? What are your experiences with electricity cloud systems?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Our house construction plans were significantly disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic, but you have to accept the trade-offs when pursuing something important. The good thing is we had enough time to calculate all the options and actually decided to give up our original plan of a gas boiler plus solar thermal system, as a heat pump combined with solar panels turns out to be more cost-effective over 20 years.
The current plan is:
Solid construction house, 148m2 (Kalksandstein – a type of calcium silicate brick – up to the roof ridge plus facing brick)
Air-source heat pump (Junkers Compress 7400)
Photovoltaic system plus battery storage (no provider chosen yet)
Our builder recently received an offer from Senec that includes a cloud tariff. It sounds great on paper, but both I and our builder are somewhat skeptical and are currently researching and calculating further. Unfortunately, I’ve also found contradictory information online.
Is the cloud system worthwhile, or is the classic system with feed-in tariff better?
What do you think? What are your experiences with electricity cloud systems?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Micha85893 Sep 2020 21:01From a practical point of view, it simply makes more sense to me to use the electricity you produce yourself! I’m not really interested in making a profit... but if self-consumption doesn’t pay off and feeding electricity back into the grid ultimately offers a better cost-benefit ratio, then of course I’ll go for that! (And I’m open to being proven wrong since I don’t really know much about this topic.)
So realistically, for us, it would probably make sense to look for a system up to 9.9 kWp that, ideally, can also communicate “intelligently” with the heat pump?!
So realistically, for us, it would probably make sense to look for a system up to 9.9 kWp that, ideally, can also communicate “intelligently” with the heat pump?!
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Piotr19813 Sep 2020 21:07Please stop with this nonsense.
Find a reliable solar installer and get professional advice. Start by installing a maximum of 9.9 kWp (depends on modules and watt ratings) on your roof, and if there is still available space, you can expand it after about 12 months.
Use the electricity yourself and avoid installing a battery storage system. Right now, it is not financially viable at all. Any surplus electricity will be fed back into the grid, and you will receive a remuneration for it.
Yes, you will have to pay taxes and so on.
But look at it this way: you are doing something good for yourself and for the environment, especially for future generations.
Find a reliable solar installer and get professional advice. Start by installing a maximum of 9.9 kWp (depends on modules and watt ratings) on your roof, and if there is still available space, you can expand it after about 12 months.
Use the electricity yourself and avoid installing a battery storage system. Right now, it is not financially viable at all. Any surplus electricity will be fed back into the grid, and you will receive a remuneration for it.
Yes, you will have to pay taxes and so on.
But look at it this way: you are doing something good for yourself and for the environment, especially for future generations.
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Micha85893 Sep 2020 21:27Piotr1981 schrieb:
Please stop with this nonsense.
Find a reliable solar installer and get professional advice. Start by installing a maximum of 9.9 kWp on your roof (depending on the modules and wattage), and if you still have space, you can expand 12 months later. Use the electricity yourself and avoid installing a battery storage system. Currently, it’s not profitable at all. Any excess electricity will be fed into the grid, and you will receive compensation for it.
Yes, you will have to pay taxes and so on.
But look at it this way: you are doing something good for yourself and for the environment, especially for future generations. Um, I thought that up to 10 kWp there are no tax issues because of self-consumption, etc.?
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nordanney3 Sep 2020 22:04Micha8589 schrieb:
Um, I thought that up to 10 kWp there are no tax issues due to self-consumption, etc.?At least a taxable benefit in the profit and loss statement. Possibly also VAT (I would handle it that way).P
Piotr19813 Sep 2020 22:14Micha8589 schrieb:
Um, I thought that up to 10 kWp there are no taxes because of self-consumption, etc.? That’s correct, which is why I wrote "for now." If you have more roof space available, you just wait 12 months and then expand. In that case, it counts as a new installation, and even though you exceed 10 kWp in total, you don’t have to pay taxes.
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