Hello everyone,
we are looking at a very spacious penthouse apartment on the third floor of a multi-family building, which we can almost completely customize thanks to the early stage of the project. However, we have a concern where we hope to rely on your extensive experience: The building is located directly on a busy village street. The architect doesn’t see this as a problem, for the following reasons:
In theory, these are all good points. But does anyone have concrete experience with such a situation? We are worried that when we dine or relax on this spacious terrace, we will constantly be surrounded by street noise. Of course, you will hear a motorcycle now and then, but what about regular street traffic?
Thank you very much for your help! Regards, Stefan
we are looking at a very spacious penthouse apartment on the third floor of a multi-family building, which we can almost completely customize thanks to the early stage of the project. However, we have a concern where we hope to rely on your extensive experience: The building is located directly on a busy village street. The architect doesn’t see this as a problem, for the following reasons:
- As part of the renovation of the nearby village square, the street will be resurfaced with a noise-reducing pavement. This should absorb most of the tire noise.
- The street will be downgraded from a cantonal road to a local road and converted into a 30 km/h (about 20 mph) zone.
- He further argues based on the sound cone. Since the building is so close to the street, the sound from the cars goes straight upward. We practically only hear something if we lean over the railing.
In theory, these are all good points. But does anyone have concrete experience with such a situation? We are worried that when we dine or relax on this spacious terrace, we will constantly be surrounded by street noise. Of course, you will hear a motorcycle now and then, but what about regular street traffic?
Thank you very much for your help! Regards, Stefan
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Seven198411 Jun 2021 09:28stefanurech schrieb:
Hello everyone,
we are looking at a very spacious penthouse apartment on the third floor of a multi-family building, which we can almost fully customize thanks to the early project phase. However, we have a concern where we hope to rely on your collective experience: The building is located directly on a busy village road. The architect does not see this as a problem for the following reasons:
- As part of the renovation of the nearby village square, the road will be resurfaced with a noise-reducing surface. This should absorb most of the tire noise.
- The road will be downgraded from a cantonal road to a municipal road and converted into a 30 km/h (20 mph) zone.
- He also argues using the sound cone concept. Since the building is so close to the road, the car noise goes straight up into the sky. We practically only hear anything when leaning over the balcony railing.
In theory, these are all good points. But does anyone here have direct experience with such a situation? We are worried that when dining or relaxing on this large terrace, we will constantly be surrounded by road noise. Of course, you will hear a motorcycle from time to time, but what about regular traffic noise?
Thanks a lot for your help! Best regards, Stefan I lived on a main traffic road... the sound cone argument is nonsense — you hear it just like standing on the street...
I live in the top floor of a three-story house, and the street noise is more noticeable up here than downstairs on the ground floor where my mother lives. It’s probably due to the neighboring buildings reflecting the sound upwards.
So, how is the surrounding development where you live?
So, how is the surrounding development where you live?
Yeah, I also once lived on the second floor above a street with a speed limit of 30 km/h (about 20 mph).
It was actually noisier upstairs than downstairs. I think this was mainly due to the vegetation below helping to reduce noise.
Regular cars weren’t bothersome. What was really annoying were motorcycles; back then, a ban on them would have been welcome. Agricultural vehicles weren’t much quieter either, but people tend to be more understanding about those.
I would agree with the others. If you consider yourself quite sensitive to traffic noise, this apartment isn’t for you.
I would describe myself as (sound-wise) insensitive and would generally accept living in such an apartment as long as everything else fits. However, at that time there were very young children involved, so the nerves of everyone involved were a bit more stretched.
It was actually noisier upstairs than downstairs. I think this was mainly due to the vegetation below helping to reduce noise.
Regular cars weren’t bothersome. What was really annoying were motorcycles; back then, a ban on them would have been welcome. Agricultural vehicles weren’t much quieter either, but people tend to be more understanding about those.
I would agree with the others. If you consider yourself quite sensitive to traffic noise, this apartment isn’t for you.
I would describe myself as (sound-wise) insensitive and would generally accept living in such an apartment as long as everything else fits. However, at that time there were very young children involved, so the nerves of everyone involved were a bit more stretched.
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HilfeHilfe12 Jun 2021 07:09If someone is already sensitive to noise at this point, which usually happens at an older age, then don’t buy!
This is the dilemma of cities and increased urban density. Older people eventually want to downsize and move into the city. They gladly accept the conveniences (everything within walking distance, doctors and all services available), but they don’t like the disadvantages (the city is noisier, apartments have children, etc.).
We live in a cul-de-sac, everything is new and people have recently moved in. It’s a mix of well-off retirees, commuters, and families with children. There is always a “generation conflict.” In the village, retirees enjoyed quiet afternoons and were insulated in their houses. That doesn’t exist in our town! Children are not supposed to play in the cul-de-sac, and mowing the lawn is frowned upon during midday.
Nobody respects each other anymore 🙂
This is the dilemma of cities and increased urban density. Older people eventually want to downsize and move into the city. They gladly accept the conveniences (everything within walking distance, doctors and all services available), but they don’t like the disadvantages (the city is noisier, apartments have children, etc.).
We live in a cul-de-sac, everything is new and people have recently moved in. It’s a mix of well-off retirees, commuters, and families with children. There is always a “generation conflict.” In the village, retirees enjoyed quiet afternoons and were insulated in their houses. That doesn’t exist in our town! Children are not supposed to play in the cul-de-sac, and mowing the lawn is frowned upon during midday.
Nobody respects each other anymore 🙂
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Bertram10012 Jun 2021 09:03I now live on a quiet street with little traffic. The few cars that drive by at night are more annoying than the continuous flow of traffic I used to hear at my previous home. Back then, I had mentally reinterpreted it as "ocean waves."
I wouldn’t rely on a 30 km/h (20 mph) zone. Even when such a zone is implemented, drivers generally exceed the speed limit.
I wouldn’t rely on a 30 km/h (20 mph) zone. Even when such a zone is implemented, drivers generally exceed the speed limit.
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