ᐅ Standard Floor Plan for a 133 sqm Urban Villa – Opinions

Created on: 3 Aug 2020 13:40
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grandmasterO
Hello, I intend to build a 133sqm (1430 sq ft) townhouse with a general contractor. The plot is reserved.

Plot size 660sqm
Slope no
Floor area ratio 0.4
Site occupancy index 0.4
Building envelope, building line, and boundary?
Edge development open
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2
Roof type hip roof
Architectural style townhouse
Orientation main entrance facing north
Maximum heights/limits
Other specifications?

Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
townhouse
Basement, floors: 2 full floors without basement
Number of occupants 1[B], possibly 2 soon

House design
Who is responsible for the planning?
-General contractor

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

I wonder whether an open or semi-open kitchen makes more sense here. The current plan has about a 90cm (35 inch) passage from the kitchen to the dining area. This could be widened, I am thinking about 120 to 140cm (47 to 55 inches) with a two-part sliding door. I have concerns about noise, odors, etc. with a fully open plan.

I would be very grateful for advice on the floor plan in general and on the open vs. semi-open kitchen question.

Floor plan of a house with living/dining, kitchen, hallway, WC and utility room

Floor plan of a house with bedroom, child’s room, study, bathroom, corridor and dressing room.
face263 Aug 2020 16:45
Well, with that attitude, many “princesses” will leave shortly after arriving.
That doesn’t encourage anyone to stay longer.

The problem is that some people apply the square footage of a condominium to a single-family house. Due to factors like technical installations, hallways, etc., this doesn’t work.
The 133 square meters (1430 square feet) mentioned here actually amount to just over 100 square meters (1076 square feet) of usable space.

Anyone building this should be aware that the house will likely be sold again once family planning starts.
Whether that makes sense...?

Footnote:
Any double meanings were unintentional and rather reflect the mindset of the interpreter.
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grandmasterO
3 Aug 2020 16:46
Alessandro schrieb:

Show us the plot of land for that.
Just something to think about:
A penthouse apartment with 130 sqm (1400 sq ft) offers a completely different living experience and layout compared to a 130 sqm (1400 sq ft) townhouse.

Even here in Rostock in the east, a 130 sqm (1400 sq ft) penthouse costs over 750,000, I’m not struggling financially, but unfortunately that’s out of reach.
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exto1791
3 Aug 2020 16:49
grandmasterO schrieb:

Even though it’s in the east, here in Rostock a 130sqm (1400 sqft) penthouse costs over 750,000, I’m not exactly struggling financially but that’s unfortunately not feasible.


Maybe consider reducing some of the planned features—I’m not sure exactly what you have in mind—and increase the size of the city villa by 10–15sqm (110–160 sqft); that would create a very different living environment. Just a suggestion...

Perhaps you could start a thread with detailed costs / financing plans, etc. Maybe people here can offer support and help you get the best possible result?

I also see 130sqm (1400 sqft) as problematic and not really comparable with a condominium in this price range.
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pagoni2020
3 Aug 2020 17:07
grandmasterO schrieb:

Even though it’s in the east, here in Rostock a 130 sqm (1400 sq ft) penthouse costs over 750,000.
Well... this comparison is more like comparing apples and oranges; a condominium in a location similar to your planned house (if there is one) and with a reasonable floor plan that suits your current needs would probably be more appropriate both in terms of price range and features. Of course, you could live there later with a family, but it might not fit as well as if you had built it according to the needs you will have at that time.
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grandmasterO
3 Aug 2020 17:38
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Well... this comparison is more like apples versus oranges; a condominium in a location similar to your planned house (if available) with a practical floor plan that suits your current needs would probably match better both in terms of price range and features. Of course, you could live in it later with a family, but it might not fit as well as if you had built it according to the needs at that time.

The problem is that if you don’t want an apartment in a prefabricated building, you really have to pay a lot. I just checked on Immoscout within a 20 km (12 miles) radius of Rostock—the cheapest apartment with 130 sqm (1400 sqft) (not a penthouse) is €497,000 plus €35,000 for a parking space plus 13% additional purchase costs, totaling about €601,000.

For me, it’s not about the size but the floor plan. I’ll check the cost of a partial basement just to be sure.

What price per square meter did you pay? I don’t have any golden tiles or anything fancy, and I’m at about €2400 (about $2600) per sqm.
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pagoni2020
3 Aug 2020 17:46
grandmasterO schrieb:

The problem is that if you don’t want an apartment in a pre-fabricated concrete building, you really have to pay a lot. I just checked on Immoscout within a 20km (12 mile) radius of Rostock, and the cheapest apartment (not a penthouse) is €497,000 plus €35,000 for a parking space plus 13% additional purchase costs, totaling €601,000.

For me, it’s not about the size but the floor plan. To be on the safe side, I’ll check what a partial basement costs.

What did you pay per square meter? I don’t have any luxury finishes and am at about €2,400 per square meter.

I understand.
My thought (worry would be an exaggeration) is simply that you might build something smaller now just for yourself, but then when you are two, you might want to build something larger or at least more suitable.
By the way, I really like living alone, but I wouldn’t want to have an upper floor with very small rooms already planned because maybe someday there could be family members.
For one person alone, which is the current situation, I have to be honest and say I find your floor plan approach a bit questionable or even a shame.
The difficulty is precisely to find a nice floor plan for people whose priorities are not yet known and who might exist in some way in the future.
Maybe there are physical needs, distance to work… You see here all sorts of different ideas even from people who have known each other for years.
Oh boy… tricky.