ᐅ Smart Home – The General Purpose Question

With the right charging station, recharging is actually quite quick. 😉 And you don’t fully charge every time, just enough to reach the next charging stop.

manohara schrieb:

I mean: they are on the road for a full working day and don’t need to recharge in between?

This strays a bit from the smart home thread...
Charging rates between 120 and 250 kW apply up to about 80% state of charge. You don’t start completely empty nor charge fully to 100%. In practice, approximately 300 kilometers (190 miles) are added in 20 minutes at a Tesla charging station. This is no problem, as most trips are shorter, and increasingly drivers can charge while with clients during appointments, typically adding about 50 kilometers (30 miles) during a one-hour meeting.

Tarnari schrieb:

If all of this is nonsense, then you can do without it. It’s certainly difficult, but it’s possible.
Go ahead. Be an example.

That’s not what @Bertram100 said at all, but only expressed a wish and explained that, for example, the mobile phone (constant availability/dependence) didn’t make them happier, so why such an aggressive reaction?
Apparently, it’s all or nothing nowadays.

motorradsilke schrieb:

Honestly, I can imagine few situations where automation would be possible, at least in my life. It might be different for others, especially when you have to go to work at the same time every day.

It would actually bother me or make me feel controlled by technology, because sometimes I prefer it brighter, other days rather dim.
But of course I understand that people are generally more tech-savvy nowadays; I was too when I was younger. I rather consider whether something makes my life better or more enjoyable, and I’ve found many other things for myself. It would also make a difference to me whether I have an ordinary single-family house or a large, fancy estate with many areas. In a typical single-family house, I don’t see the benefit. For example, my son runs his own online business but prefers to handle such things manually and didn’t see any advantage in automation for himself. Luckily, everyone can do as they wish…

pagoni2020 schrieb:


That would rather bother me, or I would feel controlled by the technology, because sometimes I prefer it brighter, another day darker.

That’s exactly what I mean. I don’t want the same routine all the time; I want to decide in the moment what I want. And that can definitely be different from yesterday, even in what seems like the same situation.

Since someone asked, yes, my daily routine varies a lot. For example, I have breakfast at a different time every day, but rarely immediately after getting up. That’s because I no longer work full-time.

I also don’t believe this automation actually saves us time. The time you save by not having to press switches, for example, is used up setting everything up, maintaining it, reconfiguring it, and so on. And if you want to set it up yourself, you have to spend a lot of time dealing with it constantly. Or you have to pay a lot of money.

A simple example: 20 years ago, you had a VCR that you plugged into the TV, put in a tape, pressed one button, and could record. Any kid could do that. Today, there are countless ways to record something, but all require setup and more than just pressing a button.

Everything is getting more complicated and time-consuming, if not in operation, then in the setup.

When I read that every minute counts in the morning, that just shows that this technology does not save us time. Just go to bed 20 minutes earlier, get up 20 minutes earlier, and start the day calmly. There’s still time to press a few switches then.

And you can do less and less yourself, because you need more special knowledge or even special equipment.

Cars have often been used as a comparison here. Today, you need special devices and software just to find out what the problem is, even for issues that a skilled hobbyist could repair themselves 20 years ago. So, I feel quite conflicted about this whole development. Sure, I love when my phone connects to the car and I can play my music. But the beeping when I don’t buckle up really annoys me. That feels like control to me, and I don’t want it. In the previous car, you could turn it off manually. In this one, it can only be removed by reprogramming, and no one does that.

So it comes full circle again: I want to decide when I do what, and not leave it up to the technology.

It is also about the "saving potential," which can be controlled automatically, but if it has to be operated manually, it is not used – which would partly not even be possible.

However, I am speaking about a development I am not part of (I am just very inconsistent).

manohara schrieb:

It’s also about the “saving potential,” which can be automatically controlled, but if it has to be operated manually, it often isn’t used – which in some cases might not even be possible.

What can you imagine that wouldn’t be possible to adjust manually?