Hello community,
I will start the shell construction of my semi-detached house in about two months. I want to make my house a bit smarter in terms of control and monitoring. Whether the system is wired or wireless is not very important to me at this point.
Since there are so many systems available, I’m not sure which one would be the right fit for me. For example, I’ve heard about Wibutler, which seems good in theory. Here in the forum, KNX is often recommended.
I hope you can help me and point me in the right direction.
What I want:
Light control, dimming, and motion detectors for hallways, storage rooms, and stairs.
Time- and brightness-controlled operation of selected lights.
For example:
Light control based on the brightness sensor—if it’s too dark in the room and motion is detected, the light turns on; manual activation should also be possible. This also applies outdoors on the property.
Dimmed lighting in selected rooms from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Light control via smartphone
Heating control (underfloor heating with heat pump) if possible
Shutter/blind control via smartphone
Garage door control via smartphone
Camera surveillance via smartphone or web server
Opening the entrance door to the property via smartphone
Smart plugs controllable via smartphone
That’s roughly it.
There are a maximum of 20 lights inside and about 5 outside.
20 switchable power outlets
Up to 10 brightness sensors and up to 10 motion detectors inside (hallways, stairs, storage room)
3 brightness sensors and about 5 motion detectors outside
About 10 windows with electric shutters/blinds
3–5 cameras
Is such a control system sensible?
What system would you recommend?
For a wired system, I’m not sure if the conduit pipes are thick enough.
What approximate costs would I have to expect?
I’m very thankful for your help.
I will start the shell construction of my semi-detached house in about two months. I want to make my house a bit smarter in terms of control and monitoring. Whether the system is wired or wireless is not very important to me at this point.
Since there are so many systems available, I’m not sure which one would be the right fit for me. For example, I’ve heard about Wibutler, which seems good in theory. Here in the forum, KNX is often recommended.
I hope you can help me and point me in the right direction.
What I want:
Light control, dimming, and motion detectors for hallways, storage rooms, and stairs.
Time- and brightness-controlled operation of selected lights.
For example:
Light control based on the brightness sensor—if it’s too dark in the room and motion is detected, the light turns on; manual activation should also be possible. This also applies outdoors on the property.
Dimmed lighting in selected rooms from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Light control via smartphone
Heating control (underfloor heating with heat pump) if possible
Shutter/blind control via smartphone
Garage door control via smartphone
Camera surveillance via smartphone or web server
Opening the entrance door to the property via smartphone
Smart plugs controllable via smartphone
That’s roughly it.
There are a maximum of 20 lights inside and about 5 outside.
20 switchable power outlets
Up to 10 brightness sensors and up to 10 motion detectors inside (hallways, stairs, storage room)
3 brightness sensors and about 5 motion detectors outside
About 10 windows with electric shutters/blinds
3–5 cameras
Is such a control system sensible?
What system would you recommend?
For a wired system, I’m not sure if the conduit pipes are thick enough.
What approximate costs would I have to expect?
I’m very thankful for your help.
"Alexa, do what I tell you, for crying out loud," "Alexa! - the OTHER one on the left!" *LOL*
This is a new aspect for the discussion in another thread about whether there should be a door between the kitchen and the living area.
Just a simple question: what actually happens with an app from a service provider you’re having trouble with, where the customer account is locked — do the roller shutters then stay closed for as long as the account is blocked and you end up sitting in the dark, even if the electricity bill is paid without dispute? Because without a light switch, the electricity doesn’t do any good?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Steffen80 schrieb:
When I say bathroom, "Alexa, turn on the light," the light should come on in the bathroom as well...
This is a new aspect for the discussion in another thread about whether there should be a door between the kitchen and the living area.
Just a simple question: what actually happens with an app from a service provider you’re having trouble with, where the customer account is locked — do the roller shutters then stay closed for as long as the account is blocked and you end up sitting in the dark, even if the electricity bill is paid without dispute? Because without a light switch, the electricity doesn’t do any good?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Steffen802 Jan 2018 11:4811ant schrieb:
"Alexa, do what I tell you, for heaven’s sake," "Alexa! – the OTHER one on the left!" *LOL*
This brings up a new angle for the discussion in another thread, about whether there should be a door between the kitchen and the living area.
Just a simple question: what actually happens with an app from a service provider you’re currently having problems with and the customer account is suspended – do the roller shutters stay down so you end up sitting in the dark, even though the electricity bill is paid without dispute? Because without a light switch, the electricity is useless, right?For me, Alexa represents Level 3… meaning the highest level. Everything else works independently of that.
Level 0 = Electrical installation
Level 1 = KNX bus (operation via switches, etc., also works if visualization and logic fail)
Level 2 = Visualization and logic
Level 3 = Alexa
Steffen80 schrieb:
Incorrect. Homematic also supports wired systems, and if you choose Homematic, I recommend going wired! I have already spoken positively about Homematic here several times. Although I ultimately decided on KNX (not more expensive)... but anyway. I have experimented a lot with Homematic... but if so, wired.If you are going with a wired system anyway, I would not choose Homematic but recommend KNX instead. Because it seems there is no further development for wired Homematic. Only the wireless solution is affordable. I see the advantage of Homematic in the combination of wired and wireless. Thanks to the new Homematic IP devices, the selection is still expanding significantly.
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Steffen803 Jan 2018 12:41Tentakel schrieb:
If wired, I wouldn’t choose Homematic either; I would recommend KNX instead. It seems like there’s no further development for Homematic wired. Only the wireless solution is affordable. I see the advantage of Homematic in combining wired and wireless. Thanks to the new Homematic IP devices, the selection is still expanding significantly.That’s true to some extent... which is why I switched from Homematic to KNX quite quickly. But overall, I think Homematic is pretty good, especially for users who aren’t very technically experienced...
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